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From: Cristopher Nash <c@windsong.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: Roger Mortimer's Children
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 06:25:51 +0100


"Leo van de Pas" <> wrote on 31 July --

>As far as children is concerned here follow the ones I have in my
>computer. I don't know the appropriate order nor am I sure if these
>are all his children :
>
>1.Sir Edmund Mortimer
>born circa 1306 Wigmore, Herefordshire
>died 17 December 1331 Stanton, Shropshire
>married 27 June 1316
>Elizabeth Badlesmere, daughter of Bartholomew,
>1st Baron Badlesmere, and Margaret de Clare
>died 8 June 1356 buried Church of Black Friars, London
>They had children
>Sources :
>Complete Peerage, Volume IX page 284
>Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1866, p.384
>
>2.Sir Roger Mortimer
>married 1321
>Lady Joan Butler, daughter of Edmont Butler,
>Earl of Carrick, and Lady Joan Butler
>I believe no children
>Source
>Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1855, page 384
>
>3.Catherine Mortimer
>died 4 August 1369/6 September 1369
>married after 22 February 1324
>Thomas de Beauchamp, 3rd Earl of Warwick, son of
>Guy de Beauchamp, 2nd Earl of Warwick, and Alice de Toni
>died 13 November 1369 Calais, buried St.Mary's, Warwick
>They had children
>Source
>Complete Peerage Volume XII page 374
>
>4.Margaret Mortimer
>died 5 May 1337, buried St.Augustine's, Bristol
>marriec circa 1320
>Thomas de Berkeley "Thomas the Rich", 3rd Baron
>Berkeley, son of Maurice "the Magnanimous", 2nd Lord
>Berkeley, and Eva La Zouche
>They had children
>Source
>The Complete Peerage, Volume II page 129
>
>5.Beatrice Mortimer
>died 16 October 1383
>married (1) circa 1327
>Edward of Norfolk, son of Thomas of Brotherton, Earl
>of Norfolk, and Alice Hayles
>born circa 1319
>died circa 1332
>married (2)
>Thomas de Brewes, Lord Brewes
>I believe they were childless
>Sources
>Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1866, page 384
>Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, 1973, page 198
>
>6.Agnes Mortimer
>died 25 July 1368, buried Aldgate
>married (1) Laurence Hastings, 1st Earl of Pembroke,
>son of John Hastings, 2nd Baron Hastings, and Juliane de
>Leybourne
>died 30 August 1348
>married (2) 30November 1348/12 November 1351
>John de Hakeluyt
>She had children
>Sources
>The Complete Peerage Colume X page 390
>Burke's Peerage, 1938, page 1356
>
>7.Joan Mortimer
>died circa 1337/1351
>married James de Audley, 2nd Baron Audley, son of
>Nicholas de Alditheley, 1st Baron Audley, and Joan
>Martin
>born 8 January 1313
>died 1 April 1386 Heleigh
>they had children
>Sources
>Complete Peerage, Volume I, page 339
>Burke's Peerage, 1938, page 182
>
>8.Maud Mortimer
>married before 13 April 1319
>John Cherleton, 2nd Lord Cherleton, Lord of Powis,
>son of John Cherleton, 1st Baron Cherleton de Powys,
>and Hawys Gadarn "the Hardy"
>died before 20 August 1360
>children
>Sources
>Complete Peerage, Volume III page 161
>Burke's Extinct Peerage, 1866, page 384
>
>Any corrections or additions gratefully received.
>Leo van de Pas

In response to exclamations of wonder here as to how Roger de
Mortimer, 1st E of March, managed (along with getting drawn and
quartered) to have so many children, I think it not a bad idea to
point out that he didn't. As Leo suggests in inviting adds. &
corrs., at least 2 other Roger de Mortimers were the fathers of
children listed above. E.g. Roger who d. 1214 (fa. of 7, Joan who m.
James de Audley) and Roger who d. 1282 (fa. of 1, Edmund who m.
Elizabeth de Badlesmere). There having been 3 dozen responses so far
to <ERandolph1>'s original query as to who Roger's children were, all
appearing to discuss instead what it's like to be drawn and quartered
(or, so far as I can gather, whether there might be a pub suitable
for the occasion), I apologize if this one seems OT. (Leo, can you
forgive us? By the way, do you feel like checking your CP refs? In
the States at the moment, I'm away from my notes but think the
relevant Joan passage is probably around IX, 273, and the Edmund one
around IX, 280-81.)

Cris

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