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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Terms again..sorry
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:49:51 +0100


You're by no means "a problem."

Please keep asking questions.

We'll try to help ---- as long as you hold up your end too.
--

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of truth....
This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end beyond
itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra Gentiles"
[c.1258-1264]

All replies to the newsgroup please. Thank you kindly.

All original material contained herein is copyright and property of the
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Vires et Honor.

"The Thill Group, Inc." <> wrote in message
news:010d01c0056a$b0fe4520$...
| Dear D. Spencer,
|
| Totally agree - A complete book would be grand, but I find the couple
of
| pages a treasure, not "rather worthless" as you stated.
|
| My story goes..
| Early 60's given a "proven" genealogy list with no references.
| 1988 - 1998, started working [playing] with the genealogy.
| 1998-2000 decided to check the "proven" list.
| 1/2000 - present could not connect 4 of the generations, started
getting
| serious about the documentation. ["Hello World, I have been awoken!!"-
| giggles]
| Moving forward, a wonderful gentleman told me that in the years since
the
| "proven" list was originally "proven" things have changed [correct in
the
| past, incorrect in the present]. At that same point I was given the
hint to
| come to this list and see what I could find out... [Tah tah.. here I
am...]
|
| In the mean time several here on this list have been wonderful enough
to
| help me out with the terms and with some scanned copies of the parts I
was
| interested in [pages pertinent to those 4 generations]. I truly am
grateful
| to all.
|
| Future: Feel it is time to jump into the deep end, and will progress
to
| purchasing books etc.
|
| You just happened to meet me at my transitional stage of this. [which
I find
| very embarrassing and intimidating to expose my lack of knowledge,
nothing
| like exposing the tender under belly to the public.]
|
| Which is why I timidly asked for help. To some it may be "stupid" to
ask
| such questions leaving yourself open to criticism, but I believe that
you
| don't learn unless you ask.
|
| Sorry to be a problem.
|
| Becky T.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: D. Spencer Hines <>
| To: <>
| Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 3:21 PM
| Subject: Re: Terms again..sorry
|
|
| > Follow-up To My Last:
| >
| > Having three or four pages of AR7 can be rather worthless and quite
| > frustrating, because the lines [many of them] "talk to each
other" ----
| > and one is constantly jumping from one to another. There are over
300
| > lines in the book.
| >
| > It's a bit like having three or four pages from the middle of a good
| > mystery novel.
| > --
| >
| > D. Spencer Hines
| >
| > Lux et Veritas et Libertas
| >
| > "The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of
truth....
| > This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end
beyond
| > itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra
Gentiles"
| > [c.1258-1264]
| >
| > All replies to the newsgroup please. Thank you kindly.
| >
| > All original material contained herein is copyright and property of
the
| > author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and with
an
| > attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise expressly
| > given, in writing.
| >
| > Vires et Honor.
| >
| > "D. Spencer Hines" <> wrote in
message
| > news:...
| >
| > | James Robinson is certainly correct. The questions are quite
valid
| > and
| > | appropriate.
| > |
| > | The selections may be from AR7, or an earlier edition. If so, the
| > | abbreviations are expanded and formatting is explained at the
front of
| > | the book ---- nine [9] pages.
| > |
| > | I'd recommend:
| > |
| > | 1. Copying the 9 pages at a good library.
| > |
| > | 2. Buying the book.
| > |
| > | 3. Waiting for the new version by Faris and Richardson.
| > |
| > | Or:
| > |
| > | 4. #1 for now, followed by #3.
| > | --
| > |
| > | D. Spencer Hines
| > |
| > | Lux et Veritas et Libertas
| > |
| > | "The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of
truth....
| > | This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end
| > beyond
| > | itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra
Gentiles"
| > | [c.1258-1264]
| > |
| > | All replies to the newsgroup please. Thank you kindly.
| > |
| > | All original material contained herein is copyright and property
of
| > the
| > | author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and
with
| > an
| > | attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise
expressly
| > | given, in writing.
| > |
| > | Vires et Honor.
| > |
| > | "James P. Robinson III" <> wrote in message
| > | news:...
| > | | I am afraid I can add only a little to what Spencer Hines has
done
| > | (see
| > | | below), but I would like to say that anyone obviously trying to
| > | understand
| > | | and check his sources should feel welcome here.
| > | |
| > | | Jim Robinson
| > | |
| > | | As the clock struck 07:21 PM 8/13/2000 +0100, D. Spencer Hines
took
| > | pen in
| > | | hand and wrote:
| > | | >| 1. dau. Of Sir Thomas Aylesbury, Knt. Of Blaiberwyck. (TAG
| > 9:213).
| > | | >| ??- (TAG 9:213). is TAG a book? and what is the correct long
name
| > | for
| > | | >the
| > | | >| book or article?
| > | | >
| > | | >Journal. _The American Genealogist._
| > | |
| > | | Check Vol. 9, page 213 of that journal.
| > | |
| > | |
| > | | >| 2. SIR HUMPHREY STAFFORD, KNT., of Grafton, co. Warwick, b.
1384,
| > | ae.
| > | | >26 in
| > | | >| 1410, d. 20 Feb. 1419 (Inq.p.m., 8 June 1419); m. Elizabeth
| > Burdet,
| > | | >dau. Of
| > | | >| Sir John Burdet, Knt.
| > | | >| ??-- b. 1384, ae 26 in 1410, what is ae? or am I reading the
| > | letters
| > | | >| incorrectly?
| > | | >
| > | | >Age 26 in 1410
| > | | >
| > | | >| ??-- (Inq.p.m., 8 June 1419), what is Inq.p.m. is that an
article
| > | or
| > | | >book,
| > | | >| what is the long name if it is, or meaning if it isn't.
| > | | >
| > | | >Inquistion post mortem.
| > | |
| > | | I believe there is a good discussion of IPM's and where to find
them
| > | in the
| > | | archives.
| > | |
| > | |
| > | | >| 3. Maud, bapt. 2 Feb 1358/9, Chebsey, co. Stafford, ae. 15 in
| > 1374,
| > | | >dau. &
| > | | >| coh. John de Hastang of Leamington House, co. Warwick. (See
MC
| > | 28-8.)
| > | | >(CP VI
| > | | >| 343 & Note f. 344; TAG 9:213).
| > | | >| ??-- (See MC 28-8), what is MC, is that a artile or book,
what is
| > | the
| > | | >long
| > | | >| name if it is, or meaning if it isn't.
| > | | >
| > | | >Probably Magna Carta Ancestry, Weis.
| > | |
| > | | There should be a new edition of this out soon (right,
Douglas?).
| > | |
| > | |
| > | | >|
| > | | >| 4. m. (2) bef. 6 July 1336, MARGARET DE AUDLEY (9-31). (CP VI
| > | 338-345,
| > | | >XI
| > | | >| 100-101, XII (1) 173-177; TAG 9:213; Banks ( 115, 408; DNB
| > | 53:456-459;
| > | | >| Weaver 323).
| > | | >| ??--Banks (115, 408, &
| > | | >| ??--DNB 53:456-459; &
| > | | >| ??--Weaver 323) are these articles or books, what is the
| > long
| > | | >name if
| > | | >| it is, or meaning if it isn't.
| > | | >
| > | | >Dictionary of National Biography [British]
| > | |
| > | | Do not know what Banks and Weaver refer to. Books presumably.
| > There
| > | must
| > | | have been a bibliography that went with this lineage.
| > | |
| > | | >|
| > | | >| 5. RALPH BASSET, d. Drayton, 31 Dec. 1299, Lord Basset of
| > Drayton,
| > | M.P
| > | | >| ??-- M.P. what is the meaning of this initial?
| > | |
| > | | Member of Parliament. Seems kind of odd to see M.P. used in a
13th
| > C
| > | | context, as it has modern resonances. I thought the usual term
for
| > | this
| > | | period would have been "called to parliament [year]".
| > | |
| > | | >|
| > | | >| 6. (2) ca. 1196 Roger de Berkely. (CP X 320; Banks I 398; EYC
| > | | >VI:49-50).
| > | | >| ??--EYC VI:49-50). is that a article or book, what is the
long
| > | name
| > | | >if it
| > | | >| is, or meaning if it isn't.
| > | |
| > | | CP is Complete Peerage (vol. X, page 398).
| > | | Banks is unknown to me.
| > | | EYC looks like a journal cite, but I do not recognize the
initials.
| > | |
| > | |
| > | | --
| > | | =================================================
| > | | James P. Robinson III
| > |
| > | |
| > | | All original material contained herein is copyright and property
of
| > | the
| > | | author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and
with
| > | | an attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise
| > expressly
| > | | given in writing.
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| >
| >
| >
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