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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Arthur Plantagenet, 6th Viscount L'Isle
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 19:55:25 +0100


"Elizabeth Talbot was the granddaughter of John Talbot (killed at the
Battle of Castillion, 17 Jul 1453) and Margaret BEAUCHAMP (d. 14 Jun
1467)."

Hmmmmmm.

You are saying that her parents are who?
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"Patrick A. Payne" <> wrote in message
news:rTas5.6485$...

| Dear Group,
|
| I am seeking to discover how Arthur Plantagenet came to the title of
| Viscount Lisle. My assumption is that it was through his 1st marriage
on 12
| Nov 1511 to Elizabeth GRAY (former wife of Edmond DUDLEY), daughter of
| Edward Gray (d. 17 Jul 1492) of Groby, Leicestershire, by his wife,
| Elizabeth TALBOT. The Talbot's had been the former holders of the
title.
|
| Elizabeth Talbot was the granddaughter of John Talbot (killed at the
Battle
| of Castillion, 17 Jul 1453) and Margaret BEAUCHAMP (d. 14 Jun 1467).
| Margaret was the daughter of Richard "of Worcester" Beauchamp
(1381-1439),
| Earl of Warwick, and his wife, Elizabeth de BERKELEY (1386-1422), the
| daughter of Thomas "The Magnificent" de Berkeley (1352-1417) and
Margaret,
| Baroness Lisle (d.20 Mar 1392).
|
| Is this how Arthur Plantagenet would have succeeded to the title?
|
| Regards,
|
| Patrick Payne
| Atlanta, Georgia

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