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From: Jochem Heicke <>
Subject: Re: Rurik
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:58:37 +0200
I read from a book on russian history a part which referred to the Nestorchronik (1111/1113)
(Grant can you write something about this?)
RJurik ( may be Rorik or Roderich) was invited to come from the other side of the baltic see to reign the area around Novgorod.
He came with two brothers and their whole tribe named Rus.
Rjurik, the eldest brother went to Novgorod.
Sineus went to Beloosero.
Truwor settled in Isborsk.
After two years the younger brothers died
A marriage contract would explain something, imagine a place without men or in desperate need of alliance.
(I can give no source, but I think he came from the Gothenburg area or southern Sweden, not from Denmark)
Leo van de Pas schrieb:
> There is something I hope someone can shed some light on.
> Rurik was a Viking, but where did he come from?
> Was he a Swede or did he come from Jutland?
> Stuart in his "Royalty for Commoners" tells
> page 73 revised second edition
> 36.Rurick (Hrorekr), of Frisia, Jutland, Prince of the trading town Novgorod b. ca845; d.879; He relapsed to paganism and was expelled from Frisia after 855 (*when he was 'after ten years of age'? How many years after begs the question)
> married Alfrind, sister of Oleg.
> ES II Tafel 128 tells
> Rurik in Altlado, dann in Novgorod (862/879) no wife is mentioned, but interestingly on the same level is mentioned the unconnected to anyone else : Oleg (Helgi Haelghe) genannt d Zauberkundige (Vescij) (879 Fuerst in Novgorod, 882 Grossfuerst von Kiew died 912).
> Where did Rurik come from and was he a brother-in-law of Oleg, and are the two Olegs one and the same person?
> Many thanks
> Leo van de Pas