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From: "Patricia Junkin" <>
Subject: Re: de Burstow
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 09:23:22 -0500


The Archbishop of Canterbury¹s tenants by knight¹s service include Peter of
Burstow, Burstow was a sub-manor of the archiepiscopal estate of Wimbeldon,
Surrey. In 1093/6 Peter of Buresto owed Anselm the service of a quarter of a
knight. The present entry shows a knight of the same name holding of the
archbishop, but does not specify service. In 1210/12, however, John de
Burstow held a quarter fee of the Archbishop of Wimbeldon.

Further references in the Victoria Histories suggest the following
succession:

Peter of Burstow occurs 1093/6, (contemporary of Hamon Dapifer if my dates
correct)

Hamo,

Stephen son of Hamo, (I have yet to find all charters but the original may
indicate that this is Stephen of Burstow, alias FitzHamon)

Roger of Burstow,
Confirmation of a charter of his father, Stephen, to the monks at
Robertsbridge...all lands monks had in Promhelle of the fee of old Romenal
or of Langeport.. Wits: Nicholas de Haulo, kt.,then sheriff od Kent, William
de Lewes, Alan of Robertsbridge, Ralph de Ferne...

Peter of Burstow occurs 1171 and

John of Burstow 1210/12.

Thank you for replying.
Pat


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>From: Renia <>
>To:
>Subject: Re: de Burstow
>Date: Tue, Jan 2, 2001, 3:55 AM
>

> According to Domesday People by Katherine Keats-Rohan, Haimo Dapifer
> (Hamon the
> Steward), son of Haimo Dentatus, was father of Haimo, and Robert fitz
> Haimo, who
> was identified as grandson of Haimo Dentatus by William of Malmesbury.
>
> Keats-Rohan identifies five persons called Haimo:
> Haimo Dapifer
> Haimo de Maci
> Haimo de Valenis (Domesday tenant of Count Alan)
> Haimo (Domesday tenant of Robert de Mortain)
> Haimo (Domesday tenant of William Capra)
>
> The successors of Haimo de Maci in the early 12th century was one
> Robert, and by
> 1166, a second Haimo.
>
> No mention of de Burstow that I can see. The only place called Burstow
> that I can
> find, is a village in Surrey.
>
> CP says that Robert FitzHamon, said to be grandson of Hamo Dentatus
> received the manors in Gloucester. He married Sybil daughter of Roger de
> Montgomery, and had a daughter, Mable, who married Robert, the first
> Earl of Gloucesteron, son of Henry I.
>
> Renia
>
> Patricia Junkin wrote:
>
>> At this point I am assuming that Robert FitzHamon was the brother to Hamon
>> the Steward whose great grandson may have been Stephen de Burstow alias
>> FitzHamon. Victoria Histories suggest the following succession: Peter of
>> Burstow occurs 1093/6, Hamo, Stephen son of Hamo, Roger of Burstow, Peter of
>> Burstow occurs 1171 and John of Burstow 1210/12. In Calendar of the Charters
>> and Documents relating to the Abbey of Robertsbridge, I have found the
>> reference to the charters of Robertsbridge Abbey in which both Stephen in
>> 1189 and his son, Roger, later are mentioned.
>> I have a skeleton genealogy and am attempting to confirm it. I do so very
>> much appreciate everyone's help and please keep me in mind should you find
>> additional clues.
>> Pat
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
>> >To:
>> >Subject: Re: de Burstow
>> >Date: Mon, Jan 1, 2001, 6:36 PM
>> >
>>
>> > I have, perhaps, a little that can help.
>> > In Gerald Paget's two huge books on the ancestors and relatives of Prince
>> > Charles I found
>> >
>> > Hamon Dapifer
>> > father of
>> > Robert FitzHamon
>> > Lord of Tewkesbury and Glamorgan
>> > died March 1107
>> > married Sibyl de Montgomery
>> > died 1fter 1140
>> > daughter of Roger II de Montgomery,
>> > 1st Earl of Shropshire and of Shrewsbury
>> > and Mabile de Belleme, Dame d'Alencon
>> > I show only a daughter, Mabel, for them
>> > Sibyl married again.
>> > Hope this helps a little
>> > Best wishes
>> > Leo van de Pas
>> > Perth, Western Australia
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Patricia Junkin <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:53 AM
>> > Subject: Re: de Burstow
>> >
>> >
>> >> From Stephen de Burstow alias FitzHamon, son of Hamon, Lord of Battle
>> >> through his son Roger.
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >> >From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
>> >> >To:
>> >> >Subject: Re: de Burstow
>> >> >Date: Mon, Jan 1, 2001, 1:35 PM
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> > No "de Burstow" or "Burstow" section in CP.
>> >> >
>> >> > What's the alleged peerage?
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > D. Spencer Hines
>> >> >
>> >> > Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> >> >
>> >> > "The final happiness of man consists in the contemplation of truth....
>> >> > This is sought for its own sake, and is directed to no other end beyond
>> >> > itself." Saint Thomas Aquinas, [1224/5-1274] "Summa Contra Gentiles"
>> >> > [c.1258-1264]
>> >> >
>> >> > "Populus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Odi profanum vulgus et arceo."
>> >> >
>> >> > Quintus Aurelius Stultus [33 B.C. - 42 A.D.]
>> >> >
>> >> > All replies to the newsgroup please. Thank you kindly.
>> >> >
>> >> > All original material contained herein is copyright and property of the
>> >> > author. It may be quoted only in discussions on this forum and with an
>> >> > attribution to the author, unless permission is otherwise expressly
>> >> > given, in writing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Vires et Honor.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Patricia Junkin" <> wrote in message
>> >> > news:...
>> >> > |
>> >> > |
>> >> > | Happy New Year Everyone!
>> >> > |
>> >> > | Just wanted to ask if CP has a de Burstow genealogy and further ask
>> >> > what the
>> >> > | final determination was on the new CD....worthwhile or in print
>> >> > better? And,
>> >> > | a special thank you to all who were so kind in 2000 to answer my, what
>> >> > I am
>> >> > | certain, must have seemed such elementary questions.
>> >> > |
>> >> > | Best,
>> >> > | Pat
>> >> > |
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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