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From: Jay Kotliar <>
Subject: Re: Thomas of Brotherton's Marriage
Date: 03 Jan 2001 13:52:03 GMT


Not only would Edward be sanctioning a disadvantageous marriage, he
would be risking raising the ire of nobles who had aspirations for their
daughters. Look at the anger Henry III received when he married his
sister to Simon de Montfort, and Simon at least was the son of a man who
was offered the throne of England! Of course Edward II was one who made
alot of decisions that earned him the ire of his powerful magnate.
Perhaps Edward feared his brother to some degree and saw the match as
diminishing the threat????

wrote:

> wrote:
> > Glad to see distant cousins online interested in the same folks
> as I am.
> > Definitely a curiosity, still Thomas would have to marry with the
> King's
> > blessing or pay a major fine...was any fine levied???
>
> Jay,
>
> Good point! I'll find out when I read through Complete Peerage at
> the library. That work usually cites such fines when they were
> levied on the nobility. Perhaps there's a Papal dispensation on the
> records, too, regarding this union. That would have more
> information. Thanks for bringing it up. [Gordon, looks like you
> might win the first round. A lack of a royal fine on this marriage
> would imply it had the approval of King Edward II].
>
> Of course, the next question - if that's the case, why would the King
> give his approval to such a disadvantageous match for his
> younger brother? Maybe Edward II wasn't such a selfish louse
> after all?
>
> Thanks again, Jay, and I'll let you know what I find out. Regards,
> -----Brad Verity
>
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