GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives

Archiver > GEN-MEDIEVAL > 2001-01 > 0980031204


From: (John Ravilious)
Subject: Re: Fitzwilliams
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:53:24 -0500
References: <NHEOLFIGIBCPLMDOIICPMEOECAAA.w.bird@ntlworld.com>


Saturday, 20 January, 2001


Hello Michael,

Below is information I have re: the FitzWilliam family of Sprotborough and Emley, derived from (1) The Visitation of Yorkshire [Harleian Ser.], (2) Complete Peerage (G.E.Cokayne) and (3) The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215 (F. L. Weis, 5th ed.).

My observation re: the IGI and LDS Ancestral Files - interesting and occasionally helpful for leads, but best to adopt the Forrest Gump Theory of Genealogical Research:

'the IGI is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get.'

As an AT:

.1. Joan FitzWilliam, wife of Henry Soothill of Soothill

.2. William FitzWilliam, of Sprotborough and Emley, d. 8 Apr 1398
.3. Maud Cromwell

.4. Sir William FitzWilliam, of Sprotborough and Emley, d. ca. 1385
.5. Elizabeth Clinton
.6. Sir Ralph Cromwell, Lord Cromwell of Tateshall, m. bef 20 Jun 1366, d. 27 Aug 1398
.7. Maud Bernake, heiress or coheiress of Tateshall, b. ca. 1337, d. 10 April 1419

.8. Sir John FitzWilliam, of Sprotborough and Emley, d. 10 Aug 1349
.9. Jane Orreby
10. William de Clinton, younger son, adherent of Edward III; created Earl of Huntingdon, 16 Mar 1337; d. 25 Aug 1354
11. NN
12. Ralph de Cromwell, of Cromwell and West Hallam, d. bef 28 Oct 1364
13. Amice de Bellers
14. Sir John Bernake, of Tateshal, co. Lincoln, d. 20 Mar 1345/46
15. Joan de Marmion, coheiress of Marmion, d. 1361

16. Sir William FitzWilliam, of Sprotborough
17. Isabel Deincourt or D'Ayncourt, daughter of Sir Edmund Deincourt, Lord Deincourt; she d. after 25 Jul 1348
18. NN
19. NN
20. John de Clinton, of Maxstoke, co. Warwick; 1st Lord Clinton by writ, 6 Feb 1298/99; d. 1310
21. Ida d'Odingsells, heiress of Maxstoke
22. NN
23. NN
24. Ralph de Cromwell, of Cromwell
25. Joan de la Mare, d. 9 Aug 1348
26. Roger de Bellers
27. NN
28. Sir William Bernake, d. 1339
29. Alice de Driby, heiress of Tateshal
30. John de Marmion, 2nd Lord Marmion, d. 1335
31. Maud de Furnival, daughter of Thomas de Furnival, 1st Lord Furnival, and his wife Joan le Despenser

The Visitation of Yorkshire extends the FitzWilliam line further back than I give here, but at what cost to accuracy the earlier generations are portrayed I am uncertain.

On the question of a William FitzGodric being a cousin of Edward the Confessor, and his son William being (presumably fighting for William of Normandy) at Hastings in 1066, there has been quite a bit of ethereal ink used in this list on the subject of 'Who was Who at Hastings'. You may want to check the SGM archives - the verifiable names are far and few between, including

* William, Duke of Normandy;
* Odo, Bishop of Bayeux [his half-brother with the mace];
* Robert of Mortain [his other half-brother];
* William de Warenne;
* Hugh de Montfort-sur-Risle;
* Robert de Beaumont;

And a cast of thousands (named and otherwise).


Hope this helps.

Good luck, and good hunting.

John



<> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm tracing the FITZWILLIAM family of Sprotborough and Hopton in Yorkshire.
> From the IGI Index which I know is not very reliable I have the family going
> back to 1087 with a FITZKETLEBORN.
>
> I've also been told that the Fitzwilliams can trace there family back to a
> William FITZGODRIC who was cousin to Edward the Confessor, and that his son
> William fought at the battle opf Hastings.
>
> Can anyone tell me with which line the Fitzwilliam family are related to
> Edward the Confessor and did a Fitzwilliam fight at the battle of Hastings.
> Also is it possible to get further back then Fitzketleborn in 1087.
>
> Any help on this family is welcome.
>
> Michael Bird.
>
>
__________________________________________________________________
Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

This thread: