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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Re: CROWMER-FIENNES c. 1450
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 09:17:10 +0800
References: <3AB009A6.620D8D0D@aspermont.esc14.net>


The Complete Peerage, Volume XI pages 479-481 cover James Fiennes, 1st Lord
Saye and Sele.

He married Emiline daughter of ---Crowmer or Cromer.
I did not see any reference to a brother for her.
Pity.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas


----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Coats <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:15 AM
Subject: CROWMER-FIENNES c. 1450


> Given the fact that Wm Crowmer, Sheriff of Kent in 1450 and James, 1st
> Lord Say and Sele, were both murdered during Jack Cade's Rebellion of
> that year, would it be reasonable to suspect or conclude that they were
> brothers-in-law? I ask this as Wm Crowmer, according to unverified
> information, married an Elizabeth Fiennes, while James Fiennes, 1st
> Lord Say and Sele, married an Emmeline Crowmer(per Burke). Moreover, Wm
> Crowmer had a son named James. If someone can verify this information, I
> would appreciate the assist.
> Regards,
>
> --
> Larry D. Hamilton Coats
> P.O. Box 823
> Aspermont, TX 79502
>
>
>

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