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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Lady Godiva
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:44:16 +0100
This is a wide occurrence.
Genealogies that have been thoroughly discredited in print years
ago ---- have now appeared on the Internet ---- and the slack, the
gullible, the lazy and the untutored are lapping them up like caviar.
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
"It may be said that, thanks to the 'clercs', humanity did evil for two
thousand years, but honoured good. This contradiction was an honour to
the human species, and formed the rift whereby civilisation slipped into
the world." "La Trahison des clercs" [The Treason of the Intellectuals]
(1927) Julien Benda (1867-1956)
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"Chris Phillips" <> wrote in message
| Suzanne Doig wrote:
| > According to the
| > 'Complete Peerage' vol II pp 124-129, which is pretty reliable,
| > Maurice de Berkeley's parents were:
| > Robert fitz Harding, lord of Berkeley (c1095-5 Feb 1170/71), who was
| > possibly a merchant of Bristol, and Eve, Prioress of St Michael's
| > Hill, Bristol (?-12 Mar 1170).
| > CP gives no parentage for Eve (and the one above looks incredibly
| > dodgy) and says Robert was the son of Harding (as the name
| > but nowhere mentions that he was a prince (also unlikely). CP does
| > that Harding might have been son of Eadnoth the Staller, who was
| > killed in 1068.
| Actually, there are a couple of comments on this tucked away in the
| footnotes of CP. On p.124, note (d) says "The parentage of this
| has been hotly disputed. He has been termed "son of the King of
| in the petition of 1661), "Mayor of Bristol" and so forth." It then
| to mention as probable the theory that he was son of Eadnoth (as
| On p.125, note (c), by Vicary Gibbs, says that Eve, the wife of Robert
| alleged to have been sister of Durand, da. of Sir Estmond, by Godiva,
| wife, a pedigree which J.H. Round denounces as "obviously absurd"."
| Sadly, the losing side in this 19th-century controversy - as in
others - has
| been given a new lease of life by the Internet.
| Chris Phillips