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From: (Shawn Potter)
Subject: Re: New Buchanan Royal Descent?
Date: 26 Jul 2001 03:06:29 -0700
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(K. Williams) wrote in message news:<>...
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Dear Kelsey,

Thank you for your thoughts. Here are a few of my own.

1. Although I have found minor mistakes in his work (i.e., see my note
concerning generations 6-7 above), I believe since Auchmar had access
to family and local records and he appears to have been a careful
scholar, his work should inspire confidence. I have not seen the
original 1723 edition of his work on the Buchanan family; but, I
assume it is essentially the same as the 1775 edition. I would like
to see the earlier edition to make a comparison though, since the page
numbers you cite do not correspond with the content of the 1775
edition.

2. Concerning the identity of the wife of Thomas Buchanan, 3rd Laird
of Carbeth, Auchmar says: "Thomas Buchanan fon and heir to the
deceafed John Buchanan in Eafter Ballat, as neareft heir to his uncle
Thomas of Carbeth, obtained charter from John Halden of Glenegeis, in
favour of himfelf and Janet Buchanan his fpoufe in life-rent, and of
Thomas Buchanan his fon in fee, of the lands of Carbeth in the year
1555. This Thomas the third of Carbeth is faid to have been firft
married to a daughter of Douglas of Mains, by whom he had Thomas his
fucceffor; and for his fecond wife, was married to a daughter of the
Laird of Buchanan. By her he had five fons, and one daughter, married
to Gregor MacGregor Glengyle's ancestor. The fons were, John, Walter,
William, Archibald, and Robert." (pp. 112-113) So, it is clear from
Auchmar that the 3rd Laird of Carbeth's wife was Janet Buchanan,
daughter of the Laird of Buchanan. By analyzing the chronology of the
two families, it is apparent that Janet Buchanan must have been a
daughter of the 17th Laird of Buchanan. Also, Auchmar's list of three
children of the 17th Laird given on pp. 45-46 appears to be
incomplete, since the 17th Laird lived a long life and was married
twice.

3. Reference the maternity of Thomas Buchanan, 1st Laird of Carbeth,
John Guthrie Smith, F.S.A.Scot., writing about Walter Buchanan, 13th
Laird of Buchanan, and his wife, Isabel Stewart ("The Parish of
Strathblane," pp. 285-6), says: "but his children must have been by a
former wife. He had three sons: (1) Patrick, who succeeded him; (2)
Maurice; and (3) Thomas of Drummikill, ancestor of the Drummikill and
Carbeth families." Smith doesn't justify his assertion that Isabel
Stewart was not the mother of these sons; so, I'm not sure what to
make of it.

4. By the way, if the lineage I describe through Janet Buchanan, wife
of the 1st Laird of Carbeth, and through Isabel Graham, wife of the
15th Laird of Buchanan, holds, some will be interested to note that
the family has a fourth line of descent from King Robert II--this one
through the king's second wife, Euphemia Ross. Here it is
(generations 1-4 from page 92 of "The Royal Descents of 500
Immigrants"):

1. Robert II, King of Scotland = Euphemia Ross
2. Katherine Stewart* = David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford
3. Elizabeth Lindsay = Robert Erskine, 1st Laird of Erskine
4. Christian Erskine = Patrick Graham, 1st Laird of Graham
5. Helen Douglas = William Graham, 2nd Laird of Graham
6. Isabel Graham = Walter Buchanan, 15th Laird of Buchanan
7. Patrick Buchanan, 16th Laird of Buchanan = Margaret Campbell
8. George Buchanan, 17th Laird of Buchanan = Margaret Edmonstone
9. Janet Buchanan = Thomas Buchanan, 3rd Laird of Carbeth
10. John Buchanan, 1st Laird of Gartincaber = _____
11. George Buchanan, 2nd Laird of Gartincaber = Elizabeth Leckie
12. John Buchanan, 1st Laird of Blairlusk = _____
13. George Buchanan, 2nd Laird of Blairlusk = Elizabeth Mayne
14. William Buchanan = Janet _____
15. Walter Buchanan = Mary Roney

*also called Jean or Elizabeth

Shawn

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