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From: "Hussain de la Croix" <>
Subject: Re: Faramund [Pharamond] of the West Franks
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 18:21:59 GMT
References: <20011006.091821.-3942337.0.davteague@juno.com>, <6yGv7.9087$98.45418@news1.rivrw1.nsw.optushome.com.au>, <SfHv7.50$t3.3479@eagle.america.net>


What is "hilarious", the fact that my mother is half South African and my
father is German of French descent?

Strange, NO - peculiar your behavior!



"D. Spencer Hines" <> wrote in message
news:SfHv7.50$...
> "Hussain de la Croix" ???
>
> Hilarious! : )
>
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> 1854 --[1906]
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> "Hussain de la Croix" <> wrote in message
> news:6yGv7.9087$...
>
> | I won't claim to be an expert on the exact "ins and out's" of
> genealogic
> | history, which I am not. Therefore I cannot comment with relative
> accuracy
> | as I would like, about the true ancestral nature of Faramund, King of
> the
> | Franks. However I will say that if he was a "King of the Franks", then
> there
> | would be the existence of a reigning date, and in this case circa 419
> AD to
> | 430AD was the time of his reign. It would then be logical to say
> "...what
> | connection does he have with the next monarch of the Franks?" be it
> | inheritable, matrimonial or even won over in battle, there would be
> some
> | historical evidence to suggest such an occurrence.
> |
> | How is it that we term him as "...legendary or mythical..."?
> |
> | And thank you for your input into the correct usage of the title,
> "King of
> | the Franks"
> |
> | HM
> |
> |
> |
> | "David R Teague" <> wrote in message
> | news:...
> | > Hussain --
> | >
> | > If I recall correctly, isn't Faramund generally considered to be
> | > legendary or mythical nowadays? If so, that would render discussion
> of
> | > title(s) irrelevant. His putative descendants, however, (e.g.,
> Clovis,
> | > et al.) are generally referred to as "King(s) of the Franks" until
> the
> | > Austrasia / Neustria division took on a bit more permanence during
> the
> | > 6th Cent.
> | >
> | > David Teague
> | >
> | > On Sat, 06 Oct 2001 07:18:40 GMT "Hussain de la Croix"
> | > <> writes:
> | > > Can someone clarify to me, what the correct title for Faramund, of
> | > > the West
> | > > Franks?
> | > >
> | > > I have found in books, that he was the Lord of West Franks,
> whereas
> | > > some
> | > > other sources exlaim that he (and members of his family) were the
> | > > "Duke of
> | > > [West] Franks" or even the Kings of Westphalia. Which is correct;
> | > > one, any
> | > > or all?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > HM
> | > >
> | > > ---------------------------------
> | > > Hussain M. de la Croix
> | > > ---------------------------------
> | > > Das de la Croix'sche Familien Archiv
> | > > (The de la Croix Family Archives)
> | > > P.O. Box 1091 Bundoora,
> | > > Victoria, 3083
> | > > AUSTRALIA
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