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From: "Chris Phillips" <>
Subject: Re: Evidence for Parentage of Joan (Mowbray) Gray Tunstall
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:11:09 +0100


I wrote:
> One other point: when I looked at Sir John Mowbray's inquisitions post
> mortem, it seemed that the statement was that his wife was dead when some
of
> the inquisitions were taken, not that she had died before her husband.
Owing
> to his having died abroad, there was some delay in taking the
inquisitions.
> However, the inquisitions were quite lengthy, so I may have missed
> something. I'll try to check again. Either way, I can't see that either
> could realistically have married and had a child by another spouse.

On looking more closely, two of the inquisitions (Warwickshire and Norfolk)
do state that John, at the time of his death, held lands in right of his
wife by the courtesy of England, which would imply that she was dead by that
time.

There is more disagreement in the inquisitions about John's date of death
than is stated by CP. Five of them give dates in June, three in September
and two in October 1368. Three agree on 17 June and another says 18 June. CP
also notes that his obit was kept on 17 June (citing the Sarum Missal), so
that date is actually more strongly attested than the ones in the Autumn.

Chris Phillips




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