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Subject: Re: MOTHER OF HENRY, 2ND BARON FERRERS OF GROBY
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 23:59:53 EDT
Sunday, 14 October, 2001
Hello Cris, Spencer et al.,
I don't have THE answer to resolve the Grey area you have entered, but I
would note the following:
1. The William de Ferrers, 1st Lord Ferrers (of Groby) (d. 1324/25) who
was the subject of my earlier post, was born 30 Jan 1271/72. He was the son
of William de Ferrers, knight of Groby, co. Leics. & c. (d. bef 20 Dec 1287)
by Anne le Despenser, his first wife. I think the two may have become
commingled somewhere in the discussion - the father was definitely NOT the
first Lord Ferrers. [CP Vol V, Ferrers of Groby]
2. I unfortunately don't have the Grey of Ruthin portion of CP, but I do
have the Basset of Drayton portion you cited. What I see on pp. 2-3, and in
note g of p. 2, are as follows:
CP Vol II, starting p. 2 :
Ralph Basset, 2nd Lord Basset of Drayton (d. 1342/43)
' m[arried] (settl. 27 Mar 1304) Joan, da. of John de Grey (Lord Grey) of
Wilton and Ruthin, by his lst wife, Anne, da. of William de Ferrers, of
Groby, co. Leicester.'
p. 2, note g.
'By charter dated [1304, from Latin text], John de Grey, s. of the Lord
Reynold de Grey, gave to Ralph Basset, Lord of Drayton, and to Joan, the
grantor's da., in free marriage, all his lands in Olney, Bucks., and the
advowson of the church there, & c.'
This doesn't document the marriage in question between Grey and Ferrers
(unless the lands in Olney may be a clue),
but it does mean John de Grey is the man, and definitely not Reynold (whose
wife, Maud de Longchamp, was the heiress of Wilton acc. to my notes).
Hope this helps.