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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: Holand - Dutton (was Re: Ancestry lineage)
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:11:55 -0700
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I have some doubt about the identity of Bishop George's wife. Rodney Yale,
author of the Yale Genealogy is the only one I have seen who mentions this
marriage and doesn't give documentation and authority.

Kay Allen AG

"R. Battle" wrote:

> On 3 Oct 2001, Sutliff replied:
>
> > > 8. ALAN, Lord Zouche, had a daughter
> > > 9. MAUDE, married Sir ROBERT HOLLAND, Lord Holland their daughter,
> > > 10. JOAN, married Sir HUGH DUTTON of Dutton, and had issue
>
> > Keeping in mind Leo's correct comments about Rosamund and the earlier
> > generations, Generations 5-15 appear otherwise to be sound and
> > supported by sources such as Ormerod.
>
> Is the filiation of #10 commonly accepted? Given the chronology, it seems
> more likely the 1st Lord Holand was a brother of #10, rather than her
> father.
>
> Joan (Holand) Dutton was apparently ancestral to Anne (Lloyd) (Yale)
> Eaton, looking at Ormerod and TAG 52(1976): 143-144, by the following
> line:
>
> 10. Joan Hol(l)and, m. Sir Hugh Dutton of Dutton (1276-1326)
> 11. Sir Thomas Dutton of Dutton (1314-1381), m. Ellen Thornton
> 12. Edmund Dutton, m. Joan Minshull
> 13. Sir Peter Dutton of Dutton (c1367-1433), m. Elizabeth Butler
> 14. Elizabeth Dutton, m. c1410 Sir John Done of Utkinton
> 15. Sir John Done of Utkinton, m. Elizabeth Wever
> 16. Ellen Done, m. David Middleton of Denbigh
> 17. Anne Middleton, m. Maurice Gethin
> 18. Margaret Gethin, m. John Lloyd
> 19. Meredith Lloyd, m. Janet Conwy
> 20. George Lloyd (bishop of Chester), m. Anne Wilkinson
> 21. Anne Lloyd, m. (1st) Thomas Yale, m. (2nd) Theophilus Eaton
>
> -Robert Battle

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