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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Who srarted to use the name Stuart : WasRoyal Family of Europe
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:23:37 +0800
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Sorry Sam, have a look at the b ottom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Sloan" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Royal Family of Europe


> At 07:59 PM 10/5/2001 +0200, Frank W Bullen wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >Apropos of the spelling of the name STEWART. Please correct me if I am
> >wrong, but my understanding is that "STEWART" pre-dates "STUART", which
is,
> >I am told, the French version of the name. Does anyone know when the
> >change took place?
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Frank W Bullen
> >Johannesburg, South Africa
>
> Mary Queen of Scots was born on 7 December 1542 and became the Queen
> of Scotland when she was only seven days old. King Henry VIII of
> England, who had just killed her father in battle, wanted for her to
> marry his son, who later became King Edward VI. The English fought a
> battle against the Scots at Pinkie near Edinburgh on 10 September
> 1547. Shortly thereafter, Queen Mary was sent to France for her own
> protection. On 24 April 1558 at the ripe old age of 15, she was
> married to a younger man, the Dolphin of France, Francis, son of King
> Henry II of France and Catherine de Medici, who was 14. This was for
> Mary's protection, because they were going to kill her back in
> Scotland.
>
> On 10 July 1559 at the age of 16, Mary became Queen of France, when
> Henry II died. However, she was queen of France for only one and a
> half years, because her husband died in December 1560 when she was 18.
>
> The widowed Queen Mary returned to Scotland on 19 August 1561 and on
> 29 July 1565 was married to her cousin, Henry Stewart, Lord Darnley.
> Henry Stewart was murdered at Edinburgh on 10 February 1566, leaving
> an only child, who later became King James VI of Scotland.
>
> During her years in France, Mary Queen of Scots changed the spelling
> of her name Stewart to the French version, which is Stuart. After
> returning to Scotland, she continued to spell her name Stuart and
> gradually most of her family members adopted her custom and spelled
> their names Stuart instead of Stewart.
>
> Thus, anybody in England or Scotland with the name Stuart instead of
> Stewart is likely to be a relative of Mary Queen of Scots.
>
> One point of particular interest to me is I have a relative in my
> family tree named Mary Stuart. She was born 1729 in Gabinheough,
> Tyrone, Ireland and died in Chester County, South Carolina. She was
> the mother of Margaret Coulter, the first wife of Andrew Graham, who
> was my great-great-great-grandfather. Andrew Graham had either two or
> three wives, nobody knows for sure, and all of them were named
> Margaret, so I cannot say for sure whether or not Mary Stuart was my
> great-great-great-great grandmother. In any case, Family Histories
> have always said that Mary Stuart was a descendant of King James of
> Scotland by his second wife, a commoner.
>
> By "a commoner", what they really mean is that she was a bastard, but
> this does not bother me, as everybody has always thought that about me
> anyway.
>
> Sam Sloan
> http://www.ishipress.com/royalfam/pafx2.htm
> http://www.anusha.com/pafx2.htm
>
There is a lot more to it and you seem to have missed a fair amount.
1.Matthew Stewart, 13th Earl of Lennox was in France from 1532 till 1543 and
I believe he was the first one to spell his surname as Stuart.
His son Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, marrried Mary Stewart, Queen of Scots.
The Stewarts before (and including Mary) were Stewarts, the Scottish Royals
afterwards were Stuart.

2.Shock horror, Marie de Guise a bastard? Who told you that? The silly
discription that mentioned her as a commoner can be regarded as correct.
James V married first a Royal French Princess and after her death he married
Marie de Guise, daughter of a Lorraine Duc de Guise, not hing common about
that one.
Best wishes
Leo van de Pas
PS. I have been away for a week.

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