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From: (Bryant Smith)
Subject: Re: Sancho Ramirez of Aragon
Date: 8 Dec 2001 16:51:33 -0800
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"Todd A. Farmerie" <> wrote in message news:<>...

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[Context: Will of Stephanie, her children's moieties, their names]

>
> At this time, there was not a French/Spanish division, and the
> Counts of Catalonia and Foix spoke the same language and were
> part of the same Mediterranean culturo-ethnic group. I doubt an
> 'anti-French' bias had anything to do with it.
>
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> Regarding the childrens' names:

>
> Sancho - paternal grandfather
> Ramiro - paternal uncle
> Fernando - paternal uncle
> Raymond - (it would seem) maternal grandfather
> Urraca - paternal great-grandmother
> Ermesenda - (it would seem) maternal grandmother
> Jimena - paternal great-grandmother, paternal aunt
> Mayor - paternal grandmother
>
> I think with Raymond and Ermesende both here, it tends to
> slightly favor the placement of Estefania as daughter of Raymond
> Borrell and Ermesenda. However, not strongly, because the Foix
> alternative would make Raymond named for paternal uncle and
> Ermesenda for paternal aunt. Still, I would have expected to see
> the grandparents' names.

Todd, you throw a mean curve! I *think* your "Foix" mentions
must refer to the Bernard-Roger, Count of Foix and married to
Gersende, Countess of Bigorre? And I'm vaguely aware of some
confusion around a queen of Navarre involving whether she
was a daughter of Ramon Borrell and Ermesinda or of Ermesinda's
brother the aforesaid Bernard-Roger; but I'm just too dense
to see how this creates a "Foix alternative" in the children
of Stephanie. Are you suggesting that Stephanie's father may
not have been Ramon Borrell? Or that some of the children names
in the will may have been by a husband other than Garcia?

Thanks
Bryant Smith
Playa Palo Seco
Costa Rica
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