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From: malinda <>
Subject: Re: COURTENAY/TREMAYNE/LEY ALIAS KEMPTHORNE
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:14:08 -0600
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Hello James,

Do you have any more dates associated with the Leigh/Lay line ?

I have a Margaret LEIGH of Shropshire (daughter & heir of ____ Leigh)
who married William THORNTON of East Newton, Yorks (d 1545)
per Glover's Visitation.

They were ancestral to the Wrights of Yorkshire &Virginia . St. Leger
descendants were neighbors/friends/cousins of the Wrights in Colonial VA.

Regards........~malinda






----- Original Message -----
From: "James R. Yeowell" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:11 PM
Subject: COURTENAY/TREMAYNE/LEY ALIAS KEMPTHORNE


> Hello all,
>
> Not sure whether this question relates to the correct time-span for
> soc.gen.med but I am hoping somebody can assist me with it,
> particularly one of those of you familiar with the Courtenay line of
> Ugbrook and Powderham.
>
> Ok, I will start firstly with Katherine Courtenay:
>
> Katherine Courtenay, daughter of Sir Peter Courtenay of Ugbrook (son
> of Sir William Courtenay of Powderham and Margaret Edgcombe) and
> Elizabeth Shelstone (Shilston) (daughter of Robert Shilston of
> Bridestow). I require birth and death details for her and confirmation
> it is the same Katherine Courtenay.
>
> She married in January 1557 in Morwenstowe, Cornwall, a Degorie
> (Digory) Tremayne of Collacombe (b. about 1526, Lamerton, Devon, Bur.
> 22 April 1601, Lamerton, Devon and son of Thomas Tremayne and Philippa
> Grenville).
>
> She married again (not sure how accurate this is, as Degorie was still
> alive at the time of her second marriage, unless there was a divorce
> or something?) 21 January 1558, Chudleigh, Cornwall? to a John Ley
> alias Kempthorne of Tonnacombe (d. 1 March 1592, Cornwall and son of
> John Kymthorn of Kempthorn and Tonnacombe and Thomasine Jordan
> (Jourdain).
>
> Degorie (Digory) firstly married 31 December 1551 to Elizabeth Vasey
> (b. about 1530, Lamerton, Devon and daughter of Thomas Vasey) and had
> issue:
>
> Arthur Tremaine of Collacombe (had issue - Elizabeth and Degory)
> Nicholas Tremayne
> Louis Tremayne
>
> Degorie also had a younger brother Rev. Richard Tremayne, D.D., Vicar
> of Manheniot who married a Joan Courtney (Courtenay) (daughter of Sir
> Peter Courtenay of Ugbrook and Elizabeth Shelstone and therefore
> sister of Katherine).
>
> I have no further information about Joan.
>
> Also, any further information on John Ley alias Kempthorne, of
> Tonnacombe and his brother, Vicar Thomas Ley alias Kempthorne (b.
> 1537, Tonnacombe Manor, Morwenstowe, Cornwall and bur. 29 April 1594,
> Morwenstowe, Cornwall) who married Elizabeth 'Thomasine' Cholwell
> (bur. 21 January 1619, Cornwall).
>
> I have the male line of Ley alias Kempthorne:
>
> William de Leigh and Jane - had issue:
>
> Henry de la Leigh, of Bere Ferres - had issue:
>
> Henry Ley, of Ley in Bere Ferres and Elizabeth - had issue:
>
> Walter Ley, of Ley - had issue:
>
> Thomas Ley - had issue:
>
> Roger Ley - had issue:
>
> Robert Ley of Kempthorn - had issue:
>
> John Ley of Kempthorn - had issue:
>
> John Kymthorn of Kempthorn and Tonnacombe (b. about 1509) and
> Thomasine Jordan - had the following issue:
>
> John Ley alias Kempthorne, of Tonnacombe
> Nicholas Ley
> Richard Ley
> dau. Ley
> dau. Ley
> Vicar Thomas Ley alias Kempthorne
> Johanna Ley
>
> I need to know if this is accurate and I also require further
> information regarding dates.
>
> Finally, there is another Courtenay line to Degorie that I need
> proving:
>
> Sir Hugh Courtenay, Knt. and Philippe l'Arcedekene - had issue:
>
> Joane Courtenay (b. about 1411) and Nicholas Carew - had issue:
>
> Thomas Carew and Joane Carnimowe - had issue:
>
> Elizabeth Carew (b. about 1408, Lamerton, Devon) and Thomas Tremain
> (b. about 1400, Collacombe, Devon) - had issue:
>
> John Tremain (b. 1452, Collacombe, Devon) and Jane Warre (b. about
> 1456, Collacombe, Devon) - had issue:
>
> Thomas Tremayne (b. before 31 August 1496) and Philippa Grenville (b.
> about 1502, Bideford, Devon) - had issue:
>
> Degorie Tremayne (b. 1526) (married Elizabeth Vasey and 2nd. Katherine
> Courtenay)
> Roger Tremayne (married Ann Coffin)
> Edmund Tremayne (married Ulalia St. Leger)
> John Tremaine, of Collacombe
> Jane Tremayne (b. about 1535) (married John Southcott)
> Rev. Richard Tremayne, D.D., Vicar of Manheniot (b. about 1537)
> (married Joan Courtney)
>
> I am new to Medieval history and therefore have no sources, so I have
> (yes, I know it's bad!) relied on web sources, so don't all grill me
> for being incorrect!
>
> Also, I am not personally related to these individuals, I am filling
> in gaps for somebody who is related to them.
>
> Anyhow, I hope somebody can help me.
>
> Many regards,
>
> James R. Yeowell, Wiltshire, England
>
> "When found, make a note of..." Captain Cuttle and Notes and Queries
>
> Researching: Yeowell, Ward, Hold, Stevens, Chadwick, Clarkson, Ginger,
> Parrett, Camp, Davies, Hawkins, Potton, Studley, Bandy, Pledger, Webb,
> Woodley, Juffs, Gamgee/Gamgey, Cowel and Hoy
>

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