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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Solution To The Identity Of Iseult -- Wife of Hugh de Audley
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 18:48:28 -0000
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You don't understand "in the 5th degree".

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Attributed to Edmund Burke [1729-1797]

"It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War
endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always
here. Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting
the ultimate practitioner." ---- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian: Or the
Evening Redness in the West [1985]

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<> wrote in message news:...
|
| In a message dated 1/26/02 7:49:19 AM,
writes:
|
| "medieval people kept track of their kinfolk out to the 5th degree, no
doubt
| to satisfy religious authorities who prohibited marriages within the
5th
| degree." -Douglas Richardson
|
| "Well, I wouldn't go so far as to call this a general rule. But
certainly
| this is the limit of most contemporary discussion of medieval
genealogical
| relationships that we can find today." -Nat Taylor >>
|
| If, in general, the medieval folk knew their ancestors back to the 5th
degree
| because they needed to known this so that they would not fall into
prohibited
| marriages, what does this tell us about the validity of traditional
oral
| pedigrees? One point, for a believer, is that to lie or misrepresent
such a
| connection might fool man but I assume that they believed that it
would not
| fool God.
|
| Of course, if everyone 'knew' their ancestors back 5 degrees, we would
have
| had a complete record had so much of it not been lost. Some was lost
through
| deterioration of the written records and some was lost through the
lack of
| necessity to remember orally back more tha five degrees. Any
comments?
|
| - Ken


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