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From: "Robert S Baxter" <>
Subject: Two Ralph de Vernons
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:40:01 -0600
I. In Ormerod, Ralph de Vernon of Shipbrooke, the old liver (said to have
lived 150 years, which I doubt)occurred 1286-1326, bastard son of the
priest, Ralph de Vernon, married 1. Mary Dacre and had a son Ralph, jun.;
liason with 2. Maud Grosvernor (may have married after first child). A son
Robert of this liason occurred 1323-1326.
II. Also Ralph de Vernon of Shipbrooke, occurred 1307-1313, married Matilda
de Hatton. There is no indication of this second Ralph's father. He had a
son Robert who occured 1320-1326 and died before 1332
He looks to be identical with the old liver above, especially since both had
sons Robert who were contemporary.