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From: "Chris Phillips" <>
Subject: Re: Eudo la Zouche
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 10:29:38 -0000


Patricia Junkin wrote:
> 1264 and 1289 there is a release by Richard le Swein of Swithelund, to
> Margaret de Ferr[ariis], countess of Derby, Ellen la Zuche, Alexander
Comyn,
> earl of Bouchan, and Elizabeth his wife, the heirs of Roger de Quency,
late
> earl of Winchester......
...
> 1299 when Milicent dies she is holding land of including a park held of
John
> Comyn, earl of Boghan, one of the heirs of Roger de Quyncy.....


It's interesting to see Millicent holding lands of one of the de Quency
heirs. These heirs represented the three daughters of Roger de Quency, Earl
of Winchester (d.1264): Margaret, who married William de Ferrers, Earl of
Derby, Elizabeth, who married Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan, and Ellen,
who married Sir Alan la Zouche.

So in that first extract, Ellen is the same who married Sir Alan la Zouche,
the elder brother of Eon/Eudo, according to CP. (I think it must be dated
before 1280/1, when Margaret died, and presumably after 1270, when Ellen's
husband Alan died, or else he would be mentioned, as Alexander is.)

If Millicent had been holding former Quency lands as a tenant of the
Zouches, I should have thought that was a pretty strong indicator that the
Eon who married Millicent was a son, not a brother of Alan (and therefore
that the references in the 1250s and 1260s would be to his uncle, Alan's
younger brother, as he is identified in one place).

But I can't work out how Millicent would come to hold de Quency lands as a
tenant of the Comyns, rather than the Zouches. Maybe it would be worth a
closer look at how the lands descended - do you have the name of the place
where they lay?

Chris Phillips




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