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From: Michael W Cook <>
Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:41:11 +0000
References: <d51b1746.0203150137.249599fb@posting.google.com>


in article , Jay at
wrote on 15/3/02 9:37 AM:

> I found the following in the archives and wondered if the Hugh de
> Grandmesnil mentioned was Hugh the son of the Hugh de Grandmesnil who
> came over with the conqueror or the elder Hugh himself.
>
> *******************************************************************
>
> Roger d' Ivry- Also called "Butler". From Ivry la Bataille, Eure.
> Married to Adeline, daughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil. Sworn
> "brother-in-arms" of Robert d'Oilly. Thought to have been sometime
> sheriff of Gloucestershire. Payne held lands of d' Ivry in 3
> locations.
>
> Hugh de Grandmesnil- From Grandmesnil, Calvados. Daughter married
> Roger d' Ivry. Sheriff of Leicestershire, constable of Leicester
> Castle. Went into St. Evroul's Monastery and died there, 1094.
>
> "Some were distinguished by high birth, and took charge of the
> external administration of the abbey's [Saint-Évroul's] affairs. For
> Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Roger, son of Erneis of
> Coulonces and nephew of William of Warenne [Rogerius Erneisi de
> Coluncis filius; nepos Guillelmi de Guarenna], and Arnold, son of
> Humphrey of Tilleul, nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil by his sister, and
> Goisbert the doctor were men of the court, and by their good offices
> obtained lands and churches and tithes for the brethren."
>
> Orderic, Lib VI Cap 4:
>
> "So first of all five eminent men left the earl's [Hugh d'Avranches']
> household. Their names are Roger, son of Erneis, the nephew of William
> of Warenne earl of Surrey [Rogerius Erneisi filius nepos Guillelmi de
> Guarenna comitis Suthregiæ], and Arnold, son of Humphrey of Tilleul,
> nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil sheriff of Leicester, with his squire
> Guy of Mantes; Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Odo, the
> earl's chaplain, son of Arnulf of Dol. All these came at the
> instigation of Arnold, whose kinfolk had founded the abbey of
> Saint-Évroul, came to Saint-Évroul and were gratefully received into
> the monastery by Abbot Mainer.
> [Orderic says that they left Hugh's court as if fleeing from Sodom

Don't know if this is a help, but the castle at Hastings was granted after
the conquest to Humphrey de Tilleul, brother-in-law of Hugh de Grantmaisnil,
but he returned to Normandy in 1070.

It was then awarded to Robert, Count of Eu, together with the entire Rape of
Hastings. Robert then rebuilt the castle in stone and founded the Collegiate
Church within the castle walls.

Regards

Michael

Michael W Cook


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