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From: (Chris Phillips)
Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
Date: 15 Mar 2002 07:52:09 -0800
References: <d51b1746.0203150137.249599fb@posting.google.com>


Jay wrote:
> I found the following in the archives and wondered if the Hugh de
> Grandmesnil mentioned was Hugh the son of the Hugh de Grandmesnil who
> came over with the conqueror or the elder Hugh himself.
>
> *******************************************************************
>
> Roger d' Ivry- Also called "Butler". From Ivry la Bataille, Eure.
> Married to Adeline, daughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil. Sworn
> "brother-in-arms" of Robert d'Oilly. Thought to have been sometime
> sheriff of Gloucestershire. Payne held lands of d' Ivry in 3
> locations.
>
> Hugh de Grandmesnil- From Grandmesnil, Calvados. Daughter married
> Roger d' Ivry. Sheriff of Leicestershire, constable of Leicester
> Castle. Went into St. Evroul's Monastery and died there, 1094.
>
> "Some were distinguished by high birth, and took charge of the
> external administration of the abbey's [Saint-Évroul's] affairs. For
> Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Roger, son of Erneis of
> Coulonces and nephew of William of Warenne [Rogerius Erneisi de
> Coluncis filius; nepos Guillelmi de Guarenna], and Arnold, son of
> Humphrey of Tilleul, nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil by his sister, and
> Goisbert the doctor were men of the court, and by their good offices
> obtained lands and churches and tithes for the brethren."
>
> Orderic, Lib VI Cap 4:
>
> "So first of all five eminent men left the earl's [Hugh d'Avranches']
> household. Their names are Roger, son of Erneis, the nephew of William
> of Warenne earl of Surrey [Rogerius Erneisi filius nepos Guillelmi de
> Guarenna comitis Suthregiæ], and Arnold, son of Humphrey of Tilleul,
> nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil sheriff of Leicester, with his squire
> Guy of Mantes; Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Odo, the
> earl's chaplain, son of Arnulf of Dol. All these came at the
> instigation of Arnold, whose kinfolk had founded the abbey of
> Saint-Évroul, came to Saint-Évroul and were gratefully received into
> the monastery by Abbot Mainer.
> [Orderic says that they left Hugh's court as if fleeing from Sodom


The Hugh referred to is the Domesday tenant, although I think the date
of his death should be 22 February 1098 [as stated by Orderic Vitalis,
vol.4, p.338 (Marjorie Chibnall's edition)].

His sister Adelina, who married Humphrey of Tilleul, is also mentioned
by Orderic Vitalis [vol.3, p.118].

Orderic says that Hugh the son of Hugh died around the same time as
William the Conqueror (i.e. c.1087), and was buried in the chapter
house of St-Evroul [vol.4, pp.113,338-40].

Chris Phillips

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