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From: "Patricia Junkin" <>
Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 10:07:44 -0500


In my research of the la Zouche family, I have found that Hugh de
Grandmesnil held Essebi/Ashby before the de Belmess family and Thorpe
Ernauld "which included Brentyngby, Thurnby, Bushby and Houghton" and
subnsequently came into the possession of the de Boscos of which there were
four Ernaulds, all benefactors of the Abbey of Leicester. The History and
Antiquities of Leicestershire continues, stating that Hugh was married to an
Adeliza. Does anyone have the last name of his wife?
Thank you.
Pat


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>From: (Chris Phillips)
>To:
>Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
>Date: Fri, Mar 15, 2002, 10:52 AM
>

> Jay wrote:
>> I found the following in the archives and wondered if the Hugh de
>> Grandmesnil mentioned was Hugh the son of the Hugh de Grandmesnil who
>> came over with the conqueror or the elder Hugh himself.
>>
>> *******************************************************************
>>
>> Roger d' Ivry- Also called "Butler". From Ivry la Bataille, Eure.
>> Married to Adeline, daughter of Hugh de Grandmesnil. Sworn
>> "brother-in-arms" of Robert d'Oilly. Thought to have been sometime
>> sheriff of Gloucestershire. Payne held lands of d' Ivry in 3
>> locations.
>>
>> Hugh de Grandmesnil- From Grandmesnil, Calvados. Daughter married
>> Roger d' Ivry. Sheriff of Leicestershire, constable of Leicester
>> Castle. Went into St. Evroul's Monastery and died there, 1094.
>>
>> "Some were distinguished by high birth, and took charge of the
>> external administration of the abbey's [Saint-Évroul's] affairs. For
>> Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Roger, son of Erneis of
>> Coulonces and nephew of William of Warenne [Rogerius Erneisi de
>> Coluncis filius; nepos Guillelmi de Guarenna], and Arnold, son of
>> Humphrey of Tilleul, nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil by his sister, and
>> Goisbert the doctor were men of the court, and by their good offices
>> obtained lands and churches and tithes for the brethren."
>>
>> Orderic, Lib VI Cap 4:
>>
>> "So first of all five eminent men left the earl's [Hugh d'Avranches']
>> household. Their names are Roger, son of Erneis, the nephew of William
>> of Warenne earl of Surrey [Rogerius Erneisi filius nepos Guillelmi de
>> Guarenna comitis Suthregiæ], and Arnold, son of Humphrey of Tilleul,
>> nephew of Hugh of Grandmesnil sheriff of Leicester, with his squire
>> Guy of Mantes; Drogo, son of Geoffrey of Neufmarché, and Odo, the
>> earl's chaplain, son of Arnulf of Dol. All these came at the
>> instigation of Arnold, whose kinfolk had founded the abbey of
>> Saint-Évroul, came to Saint-Évroul and were gratefully received into
>> the monastery by Abbot Mainer.
>> [Orderic says that they left Hugh's court as if fleeing from Sodom
>
>
> The Hugh referred to is the Domesday tenant, although I think the date
> of his death should be 22 February 1098 [as stated by Orderic Vitalis,
> vol.4, p.338 (Marjorie Chibnall's edition)].
>
> His sister Adelina, who married Humphrey of Tilleul, is also mentioned
> by Orderic Vitalis [vol.3, p.118].
>
> Orderic says that Hugh the son of Hugh died around the same time as
> William the Conqueror (i.e. c.1087), and was buried in the chapter
> house of St-Evroul [vol.4, pp.113,338-40].
>
> Chris Phillips
>

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