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From: "Chris Phillips" <>
Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 20:43:04 -0000


Patricia Junkin wrote:
> In my research of the la Zouche family, I have found that Hugh de
> Grandmesnil held Essebi/Ashby before the de Belmess family and Thorpe
> Ernauld "which included Brentyngby, Thurnby, Bushby and Houghton" and
> subnsequently came into the possession of the de Boscos of which there
were
> four Ernaulds, all benefactors of the Abbey of Leicester. The History and
> Antiquities of Leicestershire continues, stating that Hugh was married to
an
> Adeliza. Does anyone have the last name of his wife?


Katharine Keats-Rohan has about a page and a half on this Hugh de
Grandmesnil in "Domesday People" (pp.262, 263).

His wife, Adeliza, was the daughter of Ivo, count of Beaumont-sur-Oise.

The Grandmesnils are unusually well documented in Orderic Vitalis'
"Ecclesiastical History", because Hugh and his brother Robert refounded the
abbey of Saint-Evroul, where Orderic was a monk. Marjorie Chibnall's
edition/translation (1969-1980) contains a pedigree and some additional
discussion, as well as what's said in Orderic's text.

The genealogical bones, as given by Keats-Rohan, are:
Robert of Grandmesnil (d.1040)
= Hawise, daughter of Giroie, lord of Echauffour and Montreuil-l'Argillé,
and sister of William fitz Giroie
(she married secondly William, son of Archbishop Robert of Rouen)

Their sons:
Hugh of Grandmesnil (d. 22 February 1098)
= Adeliza (d. 11 July 1091), daughter of Ivo, count of Beaumont-sur-Oise
Robert, abbot of St-Evroul
Arnald

Children of Hugh and Adeliza:
Robert (d.c. 1136)
William
Hugh
Ivo
Aubrey
Adelina = Robert d'Ivry
Rohais = Robert de Courcy
Matilda = Hugh de Montpinçon
Agnes = William de Sai
Hawise

I'd guess that the lands came to the de Boscos through the ("Beaumont")
earls of Leicester, who acquired the Grandmesnil lands in England when
Robert, Earl of Leicester (d.1190), married Pernel, Hugh de Grandmesnil's
great granddaughter. Pernel was the daughter of a William de Grandmesnil,
who was probably the son of Hugh's eldest son Robert (see
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/vol7.shtml#leicester).

The de Boscos were connected with the earls of Leicester. One Arnold de
Bosco (or de Bois) was a steward of Robert, Earl of Leicester (d.1168), and
was granted lands in Biddlesden by him in the 1140s [Victoria County History
Bucks vol.1, p.365, vol.4, p.155].

Chris Phillips


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