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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: A Hugh de Grandmesnil
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:02:57 -0000
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With two Companions of the Conqueror [COC] here you get a complimentary
egg roll.

Robert de Beaumont, later 1st Earl of Leicester, is also a Companion of
the Conqueror, according to William of Poitiers and CP [XII(1):Appendix
L]

Indeed, Robert de Beaumont is the first COC listed ---- a singular
honour indeed. He seems to have been only about 17-20 at the Battle of
Hastings. How'd you like to experience that day with your ancestor?

Just hop into your Time Machine with Guy Pearce and off you go.

This first Earl of Leicester is reportedly the Grandfather of Robert de
Beaumont, the 3rd Earl of Leicester ---- who married Petronille
["Pernel"] de Grandmesnil, circa 1155.

Two COCS-for-one.

Deus Vult.

"One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no
ordinary man could be such a fool."

George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) [1903-1950] ---- _Notes on
Nationalism_, May, 1945

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D. Spencer Hines

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"Chris Phillips" <> wrote in message
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| I wrote:
| > > The Hugh referred to is the Domesday tenant, although I think the
date
| > > of his death should be 22 February 1098 [as stated by Orderic
Vitalis,
| > > vol.4, p.338 (Marjorie Chibnall's edition)].
|
| Jay replied:
| > How is the Domesday tenant related (if known) to the companion of
the
| > Conqueror and his son Hugh?
|
| Sorry for not being clear.
|
| The companion of the Conqueror is the same person as the Domesday
tenant.
| (He is one of the small number whose presence at the Battle of
Hastings is
| attested by William of Poitiers.)
|
| Looking at A.J.Camp's "My Ancestors came with the Conqueror", I
realise that
| what I said about the Earls of Leicester and the English Grandmesnil
lands
| wasn't correct. It was the _Norman_ Grandmesnil lands that Robert,
Earl of
| Leicester, acquired on his marriage with Pernel. His grandfather
Robert had
| acquired the English Grandmesnil lands early in the century, after
Hugh de
| Grandmesnil's son Ivo had mortgaged them to him. (So the intervening
Robert
| could have granted former Grandmesnil lands to the de Boscos around
the
| 1140s, the same period he granted Biddlesden to Arnold de Bosco.)
|
| Chris Phillips


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