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From: (Nathaniel Taylor)
Subject: Re: Plantagenet Descents From Ancient Judea
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 11:27:39 -0500
References: <7004aa4b.0203301753.4f7091fc@posting.google.com>, <3CA6EB54.2DC6@cityline.ru>, <7004aa4b.0203310837.34ff0872@posting.google.com>


In article <>,
(Shawn Potter) wrote:

>"Andrew S. Kalinkin" <> wrote in message
news:<>...
>> Shawn Potter wrote:
>>
>> > It is interesting that multiple early sources state that
>> > Malik--essentially the same word as the name of St. Vladimir's
>> > maternal grandfather--was the title of the Khazar military leader.
>>
>> First, there is no reason to suggest that arabian title Malik and
>> russian name Mal'k[o] are "essentually the same word". Similarity
>> of the two words isn't enough.
>>
>
>Your best hope of undermining this theory is to propose an alternative
>and equally persuasive meaning and origin for the name of Vladimir's
>maternal grandfather, Mal'k (or Malek) of Lubech. Please cite your
>sources--I truly am interested.

This is the wrong way round; we see this fallacious challenge here often
with genealogical filiations as well. The burden of proof is on the person
who would propose the equivalence of Malek with a similar Hebrew or Arab
word. No other alternative needs to be available to doubt it. In
genealogical ideas, this is the same as arguing that a given proposed
filiation cannot be 'undermined' unless another candidate is found. The
filiation--or etymology--'unknown', albeit unglamorous, has much more
persuasive power.

Nat Taylor

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