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From: (Douglas Richardson)
Subject: Complete Peerage Correction: Elizabeth Stafford, wife of John Tuchet, Knt.
Date: 2 Apr 2002 02:49:46 -0800
Dear Allen ~
Thank you for your good post.
In answer to your question, the wife of John Tuchet, Knt., 4th Lord
Audley, was Elizabeth Stafford, a hitherto unidentified daughter of
Humphrey Stafford, Knt., of Amblecote, Bramshall, and Perton, co.
Stafford, by his lst wife, Alice, daughter and heiress of John
Grenville, Knt. Elizabeth Stafford has Carolingian ancestry through
her paternal grandmother, Margaret (Stafford) Stafford, who was a
daughter of Ralph Stafford, lst Earl of Stafford, by his lst wife,
Complete Peerage sub Audley states that John Tuchet's wife's given was
Isabel, but the records I have found of this woman all call her
Elizabeth. This includes her assignment of dower and her inquisition
post mortem. Exactly why the editor picked the name Isabel is a
complete mystery to me.
Below please find a record of John Tuchet, Knt., and his wife,
Elizabeth Stafford, which is taken from my forthcoming book,
Plantagenet Ancestry, 3rd edition. For those interested in purchasing
a copy of the book, they may contact me privately at my e-mail address
below. The book will feature new ancestry for virtually all colonial
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Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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I. JOHN TUCHET, Knt., of Ashwell, Markeaton, Leegomery, etc., and
Buglawton and Newhall, co. Chester, Keeper of Llandovery Castle,
Keeper of Brecknock Castle, son and heir, born 23 Apr. 1371. He was
co-heir in 1391 to his great-uncle, Nicholas Audley, 3rd Lord Audley,
by which he inherited a 1/3 share in the Audley barony, including the
Castle and lordship of Heleigh, co. Stafford, and the Castle and
lordship of Newport (in Camois), co. Pembroke. He married before 1398
ELIZABETH STAFFORD, daughter of Humphrey Stafford, Knt., of Amblecote,
Bramshall, and Perton, co. Stafford, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter
and heiress of John Grenville, Knt., of Southwick. They had three
children, James [5th Lord Audley], Margaret (wife of John Luttrell),
and Elizabeth (wife of John Baskerville, Knt., of Eardisley, co.
Hereford). He was in the Welsh wars against Owen Glendower. He was
summoned to Parliament on 20 Oct. 1403 by writ directed Johanni
Tochet, and from 25 Aug. 1404 to 26 Aug. 1407 by writs directed
Johanni Tuchet. He was frequently styled Lord Audley in official
documents, although never summoned to Parliament as such. JOHN
TUCHET, 4th Lord Audley, died 19 Dec. 1408. In 1409 the King
requested that his widow’s brother, Humphrey Stafford the younger,
deliver her son and heir to his custody. In 1436 Thomas Stawell sued
Elizabeth, late the wife of John Tuchet, Knt., her son, James Tuchet,
Knt., her brother, John Stafford, Bishop of Bath and Wells, and
William Lee for the manors of Nether Stowey, Honeybare, etc.,
Somerset. She died 1446-7 (date of her Inq.p.m.).
Ormerod 1 (1819): 489, 3: 23-24. Papal Letters, 1404-1415 (1904), pg.
16. C.P. 1 (1910): 340-341. Col. G.D. Stawell A Quantock Family
(1910), pp. 42-43. Genealogist n.s. 36 (1920): 9-22. Cal. Close
Rolls, 1405-1419 (1931), pp. 438,483. VCH Rutland 2 (1935): 108-109.
VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 228-229. C.P. 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 60-61 (sub
Tuchet). VCH Shropshire 11 (1985): 219. Bodine (1995), pg. 31.
Genealogist n.s. 18: 26.
(Allen John Mallory) wrote in message news:<000701c1d9ed$048583e0$>...
> Assistance appreciated: Please clarify correct mother of James Tuchet, 5th Lord Audley (c 1398-1459)....
> Plantagenet Ancestry (2nd ed) gives Elizabeth Stafford, and Magna Charta Sureties (5th ed) gives Isabel (??). Both agree that James' father was Sir John Tuchet, Knt., 2nd Lord Tuchet (1371-1408).
> Allen John Mallory
> Danbury, Connecticut
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