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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: The Queen Mother ---- Requiescat In Pace
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:11:25 +0100
Gilmore makes the argument I sketch, infra.
This is a typical "liberal" argument.
The anserine logic goes as follows:
1. Edward VIII, by his abdication in 1936, cast his younger brother,
George, into a very stressful situation by forcing him to become
King ---- a situation which George was ill-equipped to handle.
2. George VI was temperamentally unsuited to become King and he had not
been prepared and groomed for the role.
3. George VI died relatively early, in 1952 ---- he was 56.
4. George VI is therefore the "Victim" of his elder brother, who was a
selfish, irresponsible man.
5. Edward VIII lived on for another 20 years and died at 77 in 1972.
6. It's all grossly unfair to the "Victim", George VI, who should be
pitied. So, hate the "Oppressor", Edward VIII and sympathise with the
"Victim", George VI. Why, how nicely Marxist it all is.
Deeelightful!!!! Karl would be immensely proud of us all!
7. Have you all got that now, children? And just forget about those 60
cigarettes a day. You see, George VI smoked so much *because* he was
under *STRESS* ---- stress brought on by Edward VIII's selfishness and
Quod Erat Demonstrandum. <g>
"One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no
ordinary man could be such a fool."
George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) [1903-1950] ---- _Notes on
Nationalism_, May, 1945
"Thrice they tried to pile Ossa on Pelion, yes, and roll up leafy
Olympus upon Ossa; thrice the Father of Heaven split the mountains apart
with his thunderbolt." Publius Vergilius Maro [Virgil] (70-19 B.C.),
Georgics, I, l. 281.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilmore, Phyllis" <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Queens Mother (was Re: A Magnificent Innings RIP
| In article <email@example.com>,
| "William Black" <> wrote:
| > Paul J Gans <> wrote in message
| > news:firstname.lastname@example.org...
| > > Paul Strohm <> wrote:
| > > jSo can we assume the Queen Mother was responsible for denying
| > > >Warfield the honorific of "Royal Highness" which she was legally
| > > >entitled to?
| > >
| > > >And what a streak of petty meanness on her part!
| > >
| > > You had to have been there. The man shucked the only
| > > responsibilities for which he had been bred and almost
| > > personally ensured the early death of her husband.
| > Actually I don't think his 60 a day habit helped that much, he died
| > cancer.
| True. But it can be argued that stress inspires increased cigarette
| smoking. Stress can also increase susceptibility to any number of
| medical problems.
| He might still have died of lung cancer--it might just have taken a
| more years to get to that point.
| Who knows?
|  A dermatologist, having diagnosed me as having a case of the
| shingles, expressed surprise at an otherwise healthy woman getting
| complaint at the age of 36--until he realized that I was under a great
| deal of life stress at the time (family illnesses). I realize that
| exactly zip about lung cancer. It is merely an anecdote relevant to
| detrimental effects of stress.
"D. Spencer Hines" <> wrote in message
| Vide infra postea.
| Gans can't admit that ---- because he's a "liberal".
| He's always looking for "VICTIMS" ---- he never sees people as, in
| part, responsible for their own fates. Self-Reliance is an alien
| concept to him.
| So, Gans sees King George VI as a "VICTIM" of his elder brother,
| It's a knee-jerk reaction for him ---- the way his brain [what's left
| it] is hard-wired.
| That means he must ignore the 60 coffin-nails per day and the lung
| cancer that killed King George VI.
| This is the major reason why "liberals" ---- the ageing legions of the
| Leftover Left ---- have become a laughing stock in the United States.
| Now, a characteristic Gansian Gambit, in rebuttal, would be for the
| little old schlockmeister of Washington Square to claim that the
| George VI smoked so much is that he was nervous, unsuited to be King
| his brother put him in a role that was unsuited for him, which led to
| his early death. You see how neat that is?
| Voila! Gans has his "Victim" again.
| Fun and Games...
| Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum.
| "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that:
| ordinary man could be such a fool."
| George Orwell (Eric Arthur Blair) [1903-1950] ---- _Notes on
| Nationalism_, May, 1945
| "William Black" <> wrote in message
| | Paul J Gans <> wrote in message
| | news:email@example.com...
| | > Paul Strohm <> wrote:
| | > So can we assume the Queen Mother was responsible for denying
| | > >Warfield the honorific of "Royal Highness" which she was legally
| | > >entitled to?
| | >
| | > >And what a streak of petty meanness on her part!
| | >
| | > You had to have been there. The man shucked the only
| | > responsibilities for which he had been bred and almost
| | > personally ensured the early death of her husband.
| | Actually I don't think his 60 a day habit helped that much, he died
| | of lung cancer.
| | --
| | William Black
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