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Subject: Re: Margery Pecche or Clifford, wife of Nicholas de Criol
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:14:43 EDT
In a message dated 22/04/02 00:01:02 GMT Daylight Time,
writes:
> Adrian Channing wrote:
> > For what its worth, I have the following extract from Hasted's History of
> > Kent (but do not seem to have made a note of the name of the manor
> involved):
> >
> > After which this manor appears to have come into the possession
> > of the family of Auberville, in which it remained till Joane,
> daughter
> > and heir of William de Auberville, marrying Nicholas de Criol,
> > entitled him to it as part of her inheritance. At length his
> > descendant Bertram de Criol dying s.p. Joane his sister carried it
> in
> > marriage to Sir Richard de Rokesle, whose daughter and coheir Joane,
> > about the middle of king Edward II,'s reign, marrying Thomas de
> > Poynings, of Westhanger, on whose death in the 14th year of king
> > Henry VIII. without legitimate issue, and even without any
> collateral
> > kindred, who could make claim to his estates, this manor, among the
> > rest of them, escheated to the crown, whence it was by the king's
> > bounty, soon afterwards conferred on his eldest natural son Sir
> Thomas
> > Poynings, created Baron Poynings, of Ostenhanger. But in the 32d
> year
> > of it, he, with Catherine his wife, exchanged this manor, with
> > Westenhanger, and other premises, with the king, for other estates
> in
> > other counties. After which this manor continued, in the same
> owners
> > as Westenhanger, down to the family of Champneis, in which is now
> > vested, ....... (vol viii p 289)
>
> That's yet another Criol puzzle, as none of the various reconstructions of
> the Criols that we've seen make Joan the wife of Richard de Rokesle a
> descendant of the d'Aubervilles.
>
> Chris Phillips
>
I don't know if Hasted is correct but her repeats the d'Aubervilles
connection in the following extract:
The manor of Walmer [Walmer parish, Kent] was antiently part of
the possessions of the eminent family of Auberville, who held it by
knight's service, of Hamo de Crevequer, as of the manor of Folkestone.
At length, Sir William de Auberville, of Westenhanger, left an only
daughter and heir Joane, who marrying Nicholas de Criol, brought him
this estate as part of her inheritance.
The Criols, or Keriels, bore for their arms, Argent, two
chevrons, and a canton, gules; in imitation of their superior lords,
the Clares, earls of Gloucester, who bore Or, three chevrons, gules.
{fn See an account of these sort of bearings of coats of arms, in vol.
v. of this history, p. 297.} From him this manor devolved at length by
succession to Sir Thomas Keriell, for so their name was at that time
in general spelt, who was slain at the second battle of St. Alban's in
the 38th year of king Henry VI. in asserting the cause of the house of
York. He left two daughters his coheirs, of whom Alice the youngest,
married John Fogge, esq. of Repton, afterwards, this manor was
allotted to him, and he by will devised it to his son Sir Thomas
Fogge, sergeant-porter of Calais, both under king Henry VII. and VIII.
whose daughter and coheir Anne entitled her second husband Henry
Isham, esq. to the possession of it; but his son Edmund Isham leaving
an only daughter and heir Mary, she carried it in marriage to Sir
George Perkins, whose daughter Mary married Sir Richard Minshall, of
Cheshire, afterwards created by king Charles I in his 18th year, Baron
Minshull, of Minshull, .... (084 vol x pp 25-6)
Adrian
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