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From: "Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <>
Subject: Re: Oppida in Irish Culture; was: Ancient Irish 'Pedigrees' (was Re: History & Genealogy or the Mathematical Study of Genealogy?)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:03:33 -0700
References: <0g1ucuc0llrq5fu9jescmnerpllu03htfq@4ax.com>, <3CCF280D.70603@dcn.davis.ca.us>, <aao238$n9u$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>


The Irish record suggests
that Úgaine Mor "held sway
over the islands of western
Europe"; that Úgaine Mor
killed Reachtaidh Righdhearg,
who had gone "into Scotland
with a powerful army and
reduced to obedience the
Pictish Nation, then growing
refractory in the payment
of their yearly tribute to
the Monarchs of Ireland."
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Allan Connochie wrote:

> "Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <> wrote in message
> news:...
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>>In a "nutshell" oppida and
>>political unity of regions,
>>in Ireland, from time to time,
>>is absolutely validated
>>by the very historical fact
>>that "the only Celts unconquered
>>by the Roman culture were the
>>Irish".
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> What about the Picts in Scotland? Beaten in battle but they were never
> fully conquered and north of the Antonine Wall Scotland was never
> permanently occupied.
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> Allan
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> "The Roman conquest of
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>>Europe extended to England but
>>not fully to Ireland although
>>an encampment north of Dublin
>>was briefly established in the
>>first century AD."
>>http://www.irishcoinage.com/EARLY.HTM
>>
>>The "agglomeration of large
>>groups of the population in
>>oppida, most importantly
>>artisans and craft specialists,
>>in the late phase under the
>>leadership of groups of
>>oligarchical nobles", is shown
>>by the fact that "metalwork
>>was at a very high level of
>>skill and quality and many
>>hoards of silver and gold
>>ornaments have been found."
>>
>>Emrys Bowen, an archaeologist
>>and historical geographer,
>>indicates that in Ireland,
>>smiths of the Beaker era were
>>fashioning bronze axes and
>>daggers before 1500 B.C.
>>
>>Respectfully yours,
>>
>>Tom Tinney, Sr.
>>Genealogy and Family History Internet
>>Web Directory
>>http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~vctinney/
>>"Free Coverage of the Genealogy World in
>>a Nutshell"
>>Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition
>>[54th] -
>>Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry,
>>[both editions]
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>>Doug Weller has written, along with
>>others, personal attacks that are
>>unworthy of scholarly discussion,
>>nor of his position as a member
>>of the moderation panel of
>>sci.archaeology.moderated; ETC.
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