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From: "Inger E" <>
Subject: Re: Oppida in Irish Culture; was: Ancient Irish 'Pedigrees' (was Re: History & Genealogy or the Mathematical Study of Genealogy?)
Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 21:47:01 GMT
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"JMB" <> skrev i meddelandet
> "Inger E" <> wrote in message
> > "JMB" <> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:...
> > >
> > > "Inger E" <> wrote in message
> > > news:rDSA8.35952$...
> > > --snip--
> > >
> > > > Falling down in this debate without being able to say if the things
> > > > about to write has been written by someone else, I have to tell you
> > > yes
> > > > there are Irish annals written prior to the fifth century. Seven
> > ago
> > > I
> > > > had the advantage of checking one from 320 AD.
> > >
> > > I think you'll find that the actual annals are much later. There are
> > few
> > > older dates given in them, including from around the period 320 AD,
> > they
> > > were added to the much later annals, for example stating something
> > > happened to a great-grandfather as it was an important event and still
> > > remembered.
> > You could of course be right, but the Easter Table I saw ended in 320's.
> > Anyhow I am trying to gain control over my handwritten notebooks.....
> > wonder when I ever have had time to do so much handwriting :-) I can't
> > imagin what I was thinking of back then I would have been better of had
> > used the computer to write it down as I always have done when it comes
> > "my" favorites 400-1400 from Hadrian's wall to Troms and from NA to the
> > Russian border.....
> Inger, are you sure that what you saw was an **Irish** annal. I'm not
> about any similar thing in other countries, and if there are annals from
> other countries, they very well may go back a lot further than the Irish
As I said I first had it on a photo, I then had a chance to see it. Not in
Sweden, of course - in London.
As for the Irish annals, there are entries that refer to early years,
> for example an entry for 122 AD says Cathaeir Mor was killed in battle.
I read that one not five minuits ago when going thru my handwritten texts. I
have also reread the Annals of Ulster and some other which I have had been
given in a A4 copy of edited texts. I have some copies with handwritten
texts and at least 20 note-books still to go thru from the time I looked
into the Irish and the Scottish past.
> However, no actual annal exists for 122 AD, this entry was made in a later
> annal, and simply refers back.
As so many times before. I saw a note going back before Christ as well. The
interesting thing with the later is that it might be a possible coordination
with a line in Ora Maritima.....