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From: "Chris and Tom Tinney, Sr." <>
Subject: Re: Oppida in Irish Culture; was: Ancient Irish 'Pedigrees' (was Re: History & Genealogy or the Mathematical Study of Genealogy?)
Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 08:44:32 -0700
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Doug Weller wrote:

> This guy is amazing. Despite the lack of evidence, he KNOWS what would have been required.
> Despite knowing nothing about settlement patterns at the time, about population density,
> about the use of gold, etc. None of that is important to him. He knows The Truth, and
> lack of information or evidence doesn't change that.
> ----------------------------------------

SEE: Archaelogical Finds
in the Peatlands of Ireland
Fact Sheets 7.0 - 7.1/Ireland
Wooden Trumpet, Bog Body, Bronze
Cauldron, Bronze Fibula, Bronze
Bridle Bit, Bronze Spear Butt,
Gold Ribbon torc, Beehive
Quernstone, Ogham Stone, Togher,
Chert Flake, Wooden Vessels

Fig. 3. Made between 400 and 200 BC
this object represents some of the
earliest evidence of wheeled
transport in Ireland.

Fig. 5. The tip of a wooden
ard (early type of plough)
found during the excavation
of the great Iron Age Road
at Corlea, Co. Longford
dated to 148 BC.

FROM: The Journal of Irish
Archaeology - Volume VIII 1997
. . .
"The construction and
decoration of the Broighter
torc are reviewed (the two
decorated half-tubes and the
terminals). The patterns
are analysed into constituent
shapes, and their relationship
with the decorated scabbards
from Lisnacrogher is discussed,
as is their relationship to the
ambiguities of La Tène 'shape-
changing'. It is argued that
the torc was wholly
manufactured in Ulster, and
shows the extent to which
Ulster craftsmen understood
and exploited the changing
techniques and decorative
fashions of the contemporary
Continent. The model of the
society that could produce
this item is discussed in
theory, and it is suggested
that the decorated La Tène
items from Ulster can be
understood only if they were
created and enjoyed by an
aristocratic intelligentsia
of craftsmen and patrons,
confident in their Irishness
yet fully at ease in the
intellectual milieu of their
social equals in Europe.
The implications are briefly
discussed for the character
of society in Ireland in the
final few centuries BC.
The decorated gold torc or
collar found with other gold
items at Broighter, near the
foreshore of Lough Foyle, Co.
Londonderry, about 100 years
ago, is regularly illustrated
as one of the glories of Irish
La Tène art.

Respectfully yours,

Tom Tinney, Sr.
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