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From: "Rick Eaton" <>
Subject: Re: Gwladus and Tangwystl
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:00:34 -0400


BTW, how is Ddu pronounced? As "doo"?
Rick Eaton

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>Subject: Re: Gwladus and Tangwystl
>Date: Sat, May 25, 2002, 5:48 PM
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> Since this same source makes an error in the identification of the
> mother of
> Susan, who is proven by contemporary correspondense to be the
> daughter of
> Joan, the source cannot be trusted as being accurate, and neither
> can the
> Bartum material be trusted on this matter.
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> In a message dated 04/23/02 7:35:59 PM, writes:
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> << I have spent two hours search the four Peniarth manuscripts in
> question. Only one reference was found to the mother of Gwladus
> Ddu, in Peniarth Mss 131, p118. The translation reads as follows
> (names have been given in full):-
>
> p118
> children of Llewelyn son of Iorwerth Drwyndwn were Gruffudd son of
> Llewelyn and Gwladus Ddu wife of old Randolfe Mortimer
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> Their mother was Danglwyst daughter of Llywarch Goch son of
> Llywarch
> Bychan son of Llywarch son of . . . and to Rhodri Mawr. >>
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