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From: (Douglas Richardson)
Subject: Re: Year Books as Genealogical Source
Date: 26 May 2002 20:30:44 -0700
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Dear Worth ~

Some of the earlier Yearbooks (temp. Edward I forward) were published
as part of the Rolls Series. The Bohun and Mortimer cases you mention
can be found in the Rolls Series. The more recent Yearbooks have been
published as part of the Selden Society series. In addition to the
Yearbooks, the Selden Society has also published many other volumes of
legal cases from the medieval period. The Rolls series can usually
found in most university libraries, either in book form or on
microform. The Selden Society is usually found in law school
libraries.

Besides the above two sources, the Ames Foundation has also published
several volumes of medieval lawsuits. I reported on a suit taken from
the Ames Foundation series recently here on the newsgroup. It
concerned the names of the heirs of Sir Edmund de Arundel, bastardized
eldest son of Richard, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, by his lst wife,
Isabel le Despenser. The suit clarified several points concerning the
Arundel family which other sources left rather muddled.

Incidentally, speaking of possible discrepancies, I found a statement
in one of these early lawsuits/yearbooks which indicates that John
Fitz Alan (died 1272) held the title of Earl of Arundel. Complete
Peerage, on the other hand, states John Fitz Alan did not hold the
earldom. Complete Peerage is presumably basing its statement on the
First and Second Reports on the Dignity of a Peer of the Realm, which
source I find cited by Dallaway. I haven't had a chance to examine
these Reports yet. If anyone has access to them, I should appreciate
knowing about it.

Best always, Douglas Richardson


"Worth S. Anderson" <> wrote in message news:<3cf11373$0$>...
> Dear Mr. Douglas:
>
> Thank you for your illuminating message. In your recent postings ("A New
> Bohun Daughter Discovered," "Margery de Bohun, daughter of Edward de
> Verdon," "Joan, 1st Wife of Sir Edmund de Mortimer,") you cited Year Book
> volumes edited by Alfred J. Horwood and published in 1866 and 1879, both of
> which antedate the foundation of the Selden Society.
>
> Does your message mean that you compared the treatment of the relevant cases
> in Horwood's volumes to the Selden Society publications and found no
> discrepancies?
>
> Worth S. Anderson
>
> "Douglas Richardson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Dear Mr. Worth ~
> >
> > Thank you for sharing this information with the newsgroup. The early
> > yearbook material is difficult to use, and, as you noted, occasionally
> > contains inaccurate and incomplete information. Fortunately, in the
> > later periods, the editors of the Yearbook series have collated the
> > original lawsuit with the yearbook material, so one has the facts as
> > stated in the original suit, as well as the "synopsis" provided by the
> > yearbook citation. On the whole, I find the yearbooks difficult to
> > use, but, since they contain helpful information not found elsewhere,
> > I use them.
> >
> > For those interested in using the Yearbooks, you should be able to
> > find them in your local law school library. They are published by the
> > Selden Society.
> >
> > Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
> >
> > E-mail:

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