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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Amy de Gaveston -- Back to the Drawing Boards
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:59:06 +0100
Yes, Finton is quite correct here...
Todd was soundly, roundly and repeatedly warned ---- by me, among others.
The really curious thing is that Todd has now gone as quiet as an
atheistic church mouse at a baptism ---- and he is allowing Finton to
speak for him.
Curiouser and Curiouser.
The bottom line is still the ultra-coveting of a line from Edward I, even
an illegitimate one. Todd doesn't want to give up that fragile hope.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he
Roger 'Verbal' Kint [Kevin Spacey] in "The Usual Suspects" .
"Some worry that it is somehow undiplomatic or impolite to speak the
language of right and wrong. I disagree. Different circumstances require
different methods, but not different moralities.
Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time, in every place.
Targeting innocent civilians for murder is always and everywhere wrong.
Brutality against women is always and everywhere wrong.
There can be no neutrality between justice and cruelty, between the
innocent and the guilty. We are in a conflict between good and evil, and
America will call evil by its name. By confronting evil and lawless
regimes, we do not create a problem, we reveal a problem. And we will
lead the world in opposing it."
President George Walker Bush ---- 1 June 2002, West Point Commencement
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Vires et Honor.
<> wrote in message news:...
| In a message dated 6/21/02 1:18:11 AM, writes:
| << Ken, you've thrown Robert Todd to the wolves, yet remain determined
| your stance that everything is still up in the air regarding Amie de
| Gaveston's parentage. >>
| I do not believe that I come close to throwing Todd to the 'wolves'. He
| the 'wolves' were going to be there from the start. His manuscript was
| roundly criticized before publication by several people whose opinions I
| respect. It was sent back for a rewrite because of these criticisms, as
| were points that were either unclear or needed more research.
| Todd promised to use primary materials to illustrate his points whenever
| possible. It was also to be about Joan and not about Amie. Thus it was
| titled. The subject has generated a lot of discussion whenever it was
| up, so no one was naive enough not to think is would generate a lot of
| criticism. As I do not have the right to rewrite people's works, the
| takes responsibility for their own research and the conclusions they
| are their own.
|Re: Amy de Gaveston -- Back to the Drawing Boards by "D. Spencer Hines" <>|