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From: "Rosie Bevan" <>
Subject: Re: New PA line to Jane Lowe
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:03:02 +1200
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Dear Brice

I understand that the source which Douglas Richardson gave for the
connection was the one posted to SGM on 3 May 2002

"W. Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum, 6 Pt.1 (rev. ed., 1830): 501 (Longespée
pedigree in Lacock Priory records: "Elam [Fitz Walter], quam duxit primo
Guillielmus de Dodingeseles".')"

It is not obvious from the citation what the evidence for Ela's parentage

The FitzWalters appear to have patronised Beeliegh abbey in Essex. Perhaps a
cartulary exits?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Clagett, Brice" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:33 AM
Subject: New PA line to Jane Lowe

> The "new line" depends on the alleged marriage of Sir Walter Fitz
> Robert to Ela Longespee. I believe I have pointed out before that
> Ronny O. Bodine, in "Losing a Magna Charta Baron Descent," Owsley
> Family Historical Society Newsletter 28:79 (1996), argues that
> there is no reliable evidence for the parentage of Odingsells'
> wife. As I remember, Doug replied that evidence could be given to
> support this marriage, but so far as I am aware he has not given
> it.

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