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From: "Sarah Reveley" <>
Subject: Re: Umfrevilles and Reveleys
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 01:44:52 -0500
References: <20020703062605.55329.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com>


Hi Miriam, Hugh's wife was Juliana Umfraville, daughter of Robert, who was the son of William.

Good grief.....I'm starting to sound like y'all..................

Sarah
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----- Original Message -----
From: Miriam Ward
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: Umfrevilles and Reveleys


Rosie,
You mention that Hugh of Morwick probably obtained
Reaveley by right of his wife who,I believe was Agnes
de Heyford.I don't go any further back on this line
than those two(Hugh and Agnes) and wondered if you
might have any earlier generations on them.You've
certainly done a lot of work tonight on this list so
please take your time if you feel like looking.Thanks.

Miriam

--- Rosie Bevan <> wrote:
> Dear Sarah
>
> The following is from Constance M. Fraser, "The
> Northumberland Lay Subsidy
> Roll of 1296" The Society of Antiquaries of
> Newcastle upon Tyne, 1968 p.178.
>
> "REAVELEY (Reveley) Member of barony of Alnwick,
> being part of the manor of
> Ingram, one of the 'ten towns'. On his death in 1268
> Hugh of Morwick III
> held Reaveley, possibly by right of his wife, and it
> was divided among four
> daughters and co-heiresses. Beatrice dying childless
> and Margery becoming a
> nun, the estate which included Morwick, East and
> West Chevington and half
> Longhirst was split between Theophania and her
> husband John Bulmer and Sybil
> and her husband Roger Lumley and their heirs. Roger
> Lumley died before Sept
> 1284 and his widow remarried Laurence of St. Maur,
> who died in 1296. Her
> eldest son, Sir Robert Lumley, can probably be
> identified with the Sir
> Robert of Reaveley of the subsidy roll. Sybil died
> in 1298. The Bulmer
> moiety was held of them by Alexander of Biddick in
> 1284 (NCH V 347, 350; XIV
> 472, 479-80)
>
> William son of Geoffrey 11s.
> Sir Robert of Reaveley L4 10 0d
> William servant of Emma L2 17 3d
> Thomas of Hog' L2 14 6d
> William son of William L1 6 8d
> William son of Matilda L1 13 9d
> Henry Brun L 2 1 10d
>
> TA of Reaveley, L15 15s 0d, TD L1 8s 7 3/4d.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rosie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sarah Reveley" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 3:30 PM
> Subject: Umfrevilles and Reveleys
>
>
> > The Reveleys came, it is presumed, from Reveley
> (or Reaveley) , a ville
> and manor in the parish of Ingram, and county of
> Northumberland. In the
> beginning of the 12th century, these feudal lands
> were granted by the Vescis
> to the Umfravilles, the Lords of Redesdale.
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> > The Umfrevilles Charter states that the Liberty of
> Redesdale was granted
> to Robert 'with-the-beard' Umfreville in 1076.
> >
> > In the reign of Richard I (1189-99), it was held
> for the Umfravilles by
> William Umfraville, who was succeeded by his son
> Robert, who in turn had a
> daughter Juliana. She married Sir Hugh Morwick III.
> >
> > In 1242 Gilbert de Umfraville held the ten towns
> by the services of two
> knight's fees and a sparrow hawk of a year old by
> ancient enfeoffment.
> Ingram was held by the main line of Umfraville until
> 1378, when Gilbert de
> Umfraville earl of Angus settled the lordship of
> Harbottle on his
> half-brother Thomas Umfraville; henceforward Ingram
> was in the possession of
> the younger line of Umfraville and passed to the
> heirs of the Talboys.
> >
> > There are several reasons why I am exploring a
> possible connection between
> the Umfravilles (also spelled Umfreville) and the
> Reveleys:
> >
> > 1. Altho Burke's Peerage and Hodgson's History of
> Northumberland both
> state Reveley to be the manor house of the Reveleys,
> neither mention
> Reveleys who actually lived there.
> >
> > 2. The similarity of the names, Umfreville and
> Reveley is worth
> consideration.
> >
> > 3. Umf is a prefix that has been dropped by Scots
> in other countries, as
> has O' and Omo. Others living in Umfreville may have
> Anglicized the village
> name, as raids with Border Reivers persisted in the
> area.
> >
> > 4. Burke says that Reveley village was first
> recorded in 1242. That was
> the year Gilbert de Umfraville held Ingram and the
> other towns by the
> services of two knight's fees and a sparrow hawk of
> a year old by ancient
> enfeoffment. Reaveley was not a part of the ten
> towns of Coquetdale, so did
> it even have a name then? Was it given a name later?
> >
> > My research is based upon Burke's Peerage,
> Hodgson's History of
> Northumberland, and research done on Umfrevilles on
> the internet, by Gary
> Wright, who has researched the family for ten years.
> >
> > As far as I know, I am the first family historian
> to do any extended
> research on the Reveley family in England. Your
> thoughts on my theory would
> be greatly appreciated. (I can take it....;-)
> >
> > Thanks,
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> > Sarah Reveley
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