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From: "Leo van de Pas" <>
Subject: Re: Earl of Arundel/Duke of Exeter
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:07:05 +1000
I think you are reading it wrongly, King Richard II placed him in custody
of his half-brother-----King Richard's half-brother.
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Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:11 AM
Subject: Earl of Arundel/Duke of Exeter
> The Oxford Concise DNB states that Thomas [12th - CP numbering] earl of
> Arundel (1381-1415) escaped from his half brother to the continent. From
> Vol I p 245 he was for some time in ward to John Holland Duke of
> managed to escape to the Continent.
> This implies that John Holland Duke of Exeter was half brother to Thomas
> of Arundel, but I cannot see how this works, I assume DNB is wrong?
> BTW John Holland's wife was Elizabeth d of John of Gaunt and after his
> she m Sir John Cornwall (Baron Fanhope) whose 1st wife was Philippa
> of Sir Edward de Arundel (c1327->1377). This Edward was half brother to
> Richard 11 Er Arundel father of the above 12 Er.
> Also I note in passing that under CP Vol I, p 248 John 14 Er Arundel m.
> (or, more probably, was contracted when a minor to), Constance, da. of
> Cornwall Ld Fanhope, by Elizabeth, da. of John of Gaunt.