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From: Kay Allen AG <>
Subject: Re: The Henry Project - one year later
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:55:45 -0700
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But the Eastern ancestries are also some of the most controversial. So they are
probably some of the most difficult on which to get positive, concrete documentation.


The Williams Family wrote:

> Hello,
> It seems to me that one reason why there may be less interest in Henry II than
> expected is the fact that he is a very common ancestor and at least some of his
> ancestry is quite well researched. I would suggest picking another ancestor of
> Edward III or his wife but not one so common as Henry. I think by using an ancestor
> of Edward as the basis of any pedigree you would get the most participation as just
> about everybody is interested in his ancestry.
> Admittedly I'm somewhat biased here but I would suggest giving one of the
> Eastern ancestors of the English kings a try. There has always been quite a bit of
> fascination on with Greek and Mid-Eastern nobility and royalty. I would
> suggest one of these three:
> 1) Maria of Hungary (d. 1323) = Carlo II, Re di Napoli & Sicilia (1254 - 1309). She
> is an ancestress of Philippa of Hainault in the 4th generation and is the best
> gateway to Hungary in the English ancestry.
> 2) Yolande of Hungary (d. 1251) = Jaime I, Rey de Aragon (1205-1276). Her paternal
> ancestry overlaps with Maria's but her maternal line is different.
> 3) Eudokia Komnena = Guillaume VIII, Seigneur de Montpellier. I believe her Komnene
> ancestry mostly overlaps with the Hungarian connections with the exception of the
> Synadenos family on her mother's side.
> Just a thought.
> Kelsey Williams
> >
> > >
> > >1. Expand the scope of the project to include a number of Henry II's
> > >contemporaries in other countries (and their ancestors through the
> > >tenth generation), so that a more representative sample of early
> > >medieval European nobility is included.
> > >
> > >2. Expand the scope of the project to include some of the English
> > >peerage and gentry between the twelfth and fifteenth centuries,
> > >perhaps by picking one or more English individuals of the early
> > >fifteenth century and then adding them and their ancestors to the
> > >scope of the project.
> > >

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