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From: "Stewart, Peter" <>
Subject: RE: Eudokia Komnene [was: The Henry Project -- One Year Later]
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:25:27 +1000
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> Subject: RE: Eudokia Komnene [was: The Henry Project -- One
> Year Later]
> > > > <snip>
> > > > The ODB cites the article "Die Synadenos" in the _Jahrbuch
> > > > der Osterreichischen Byzantinistik_ 25 (1976), pp. 125-61 as
> > > > the best source on the Synadenos family. Does anyone have
> > > > access to this journal?
> > >
> > > I will look this up at the weekend if no-one has let us know
> > > before then - however, I doubt that there is any definite
> > > information about Eirene Diplosynadene.
> > A friend has kindly spent her lunchtime saving me this
> > trouble, and informs me that there is no mention at all
> > of this Eirene, or of any other Diplosynadenoi, in the
> > article cited.
> > Peter Stewart
> Thanks for telling me. I wonder what primary sources she
> would be likely to be mentioned in? I think she's about a
> generation too late to be included in Anna Komnena.
> Regarding her birth and marriage, I agree that the dates
> seems rather odd. William of Tyre mentions the age (13) of
> Theodora at her marriage in 1158 so that would seem to be
> well-established. If Sturdza can be trusted regarding
> Eudokia's birth date as 1167 then I think that her ancestry
> as presented in the ODB ought to be revaluated.
I believe this birthdate must be wrong - perhaps a typo. Stiernon says she
was born in 1162, which makes sense as just about the latest likely timing.
I have little doubt that she was the youngest daughter of Isaakios Komnenos,
contrary to what ES and Sturdza say, and it would take a fairly persuasive
argument to substantiate an alternative. She was sent to Spain by Emperor
Manuel I (reputedly her uncle from contemporary accounts) after he had
negotiated her marriage to Alfonso of Aragon, but ambassadors preceding her
had been mortified to discover on arrival that the bridegroom had married
already. Guillem, heir of Montpellier, stepped into the breach, and the pair
were married in some haste, only to repent at bitter leisure. Eudokia was
known in Languedoc as "Imperatrix", much more likely if she were the niece
of the reigning emperor on her arrival there rather than just the
great-granddaughter of a dead one, as would be the case if she were merely
the daughter of Alexios.
The possibility that she was born 17 years after her only recorded sibling
isn't too remote - but then, Theodora may not have been her full sister, as
Isaakios _might_ have had another wife after Eirene Diplosynadene: third
marriages were certainly common enough to pass without special notice,
although fourth ones were rare and had been officially forbidden long
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