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From: The Williams Family <>
Subject: RE: Sybilia, wife of Guillem VI de Montpellier
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 07:45:17 -0800
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Hello,

Thanks for the further details. What publication of Szabolcs de Vajay is this filiation related in?
Lewis states that Guillem VI actually died in 1149 but he may have been making that claim based solely upon
his son first appearing as head of the family at that date. In this insistence I think an examination of the
Montpellier Cartulary is probably what is necessary to resolve the confusion over his death and/or retirement.

Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams

>
> >
> > I have:
> > 1 Bonafacio I de Vasto di Savona (1st M.di Savona)
> > . +Agnes de Vermandois (daughter of Hugh Magnus AR 7 53-23)
> > .2 Sibel de Vasto di Savona b: Abt. 1100 a Catalan
> > noblewoman d: Bef. 1146
> > .... +Guillaume VI de Montpellier b: Abt. 1105 d: 1149
> >
> > This needs work however.
>
> According to Szabolcs de Vajay, Sibila was daughter of Huc de Mataplana -
> i.e. a Catalan, not an Italian belonging to the del Vasto family.
>
> She was dead before her husband made his will on 11 December 1146, but not
> necessarily before that calendar year.
>
> Also, are you sure that Guilhem VI of Montpellier died in 1149? By one
> account he became a monk at Grandselve in that year, handing over the
> seigneury to his son. Death usually followed soon after such self-denying
> acts by noblemen, but Guilhem's is placed as late as 1162 by some
> historians. I haven't come across proof of this.
>
> Peter Stewart

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