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From: "Valerio Lucchinetti" <>
Subject: RE: Murder most foul
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 19:50:54 -0000
In-Reply-To: <F2D28C5064A4CF468A42E5A80EDBEB400502FA79@cbiexm02wa.cov.com>


Some corrections to this list:
1406 Francesco III de Carrara, Prince of Padua = strangled in jail by the
Venetians upon order of the venetian government

1456 George Brankovic, Despot of Serbia = this one died a natural death, he
was almost 90 yrs old

Valerio Lucchinetti

-----Original Message-----
From: Clagett, Brice [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 5:20 PM
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Subject: Murder most foul


Leo's list reminds me of the two men who were flying over the Atlantic in a
balloon. They were complety fogged in for hours; visibility zero; no idea
where they were.. Finally the fog cleared a bit and they saw they were above
land and quite low down. A man was walking just below them. "Hey, you down
there -- where are we?" "You're in a balloon." "That man is a lawyer." "How
do you know?" I'"I'll prove it to you -- hey, are you a lawyer?" "Yes." "How
on earth did you know?" "Simple -- everything he says is absolutely true,
and absolutely useless."

So far as I know Leo is not a lawyer, but his list is absolutely useless. It
is also incomplete and, for that reason, highly addictive. I have wasted my
whole evening compiling some additions. They are equally useless and
incomplete, but here they are.

820 Leo V, Byzantine Emperor = murdered
845 Ragnar Lodbrok = perished in a Northumbrian snake pit
927 Ludmilla, Duchess of Bohemia = massacred by pagans
1063 Gruffydd ap Llewellyn, King of Wales = murdered
1131 Knutr Lavardr, King of the Obotrites = murdered
1187 Renaud de Chatillon-sur-Loing, Prince of Antioch = beheaded by Saladin
in person
1197 Henry II, Count of Champagne and Brie, Regent of Jerusalem = fell out
of window
1204 Hakon III, King of Norway = murdered
1210 William de Briouze = starved to death
1210 Maud (de St. Valerie) de Briouze = starved to death
1230 William de Briouze = murdered
1244 Gauthier IV de Brienne, Count of Brienne and Jaffa = died in an
altercation with an Egyptian emir during a chess game
1259 Cael-Uisce O'Brien = torn to pieces by horses
1322 John de Mowbray, 2d Lord Mowbray = executed
1330 Edmund of Woodstock, Earl of Kent = executed
1330 Roger de Mortimer, 1st Earl of March = executed
1370 Casimir III, King of Poland = died from a fall while hunting
1397 Richard Fitzalan, 4th Earl of Arundel = executed
1398 Branko Iekpal, Despot of Pristina = poisoned
1400 John Montagu, 3d Earl of Salisbury = lynched by a mob
1404 Gerhard VI, Duke of Slesvig = murdered
1406 Francesco III de Carrara, Prince of Padua = murdered
1415 Richard of York, Earl of Cambridge = executed
1456 George Brankovic, Despot of Serbia = killed in a duel
1460 Richard Plantagenet, Duke of York = executed
1477 George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence -- drowned in a butt of malmsey
wine
1483 William Hastings, 1st Lord Hastings -- executed
1510 Sir Richard Empson = executed
1510 Sir Edmund Dudley = executed
1543 Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury = executed
1547 Henry Howard, Earl of Surrey = executed
1552 Edward Seymour, Duke of Somerset = executed
1553 John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland = executed
1553 Donough O'Brien, 2d Earl of Thomond = murdered
1572 Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk = executed
1585 Henry Percy, 8th Earl of Nothumberland = murdered
1587 Mary, Queen of Scots = executed
1601 Robert Devereux, 2d Earl of Essex = executed
1648 James Hamilton, 1st Duke of Hamilton = executed
1649 Charles I, King of Great Britain and Ireland = executed
1661 Archibald Campbell, 1st Marquess of Argyll = executed
1685 Archibald Campbell, 9th Earl of Argyll = executed
1841 Claudine Rhedey de Kis-Rhede, Countess of Hohenstein = died of a fall
from a horse.

And a correction to Leo's list: "1470 Sir Philip Dymore" should read "1470
Sir Thomas Dymoke."


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