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From: "Clagett, Brice" <>
Subject: murder most foul
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:01:55 -0500


Leo and I both missed two obvious entries -- the grandfathers of King Henry VII:
1444 John Beaufort, 1st Duke of Somerset = suicide
1461 Sir Owen Tudor -- executed (or murdered, depending on what one thinks of the status of the Yorkist army after the Battle of Mortimer's Cross).

I mention this belatedly only because Somerset is, I think, the only suicide on ths list so far.

My authority for George Brankovic, Despot of Serbia, was Moncreiffe, Royal Highness (1982) pp. 54, 56.

I was wrong about Teige Cael-Uisce O'Brien as torn to pieces by horses in 1259. I confused him with his brother Brian Ruadh O'Brien, King of Thomond, who met that fate in 1277 at the hands of "the son of the Earl of Clare" (i.e. Thomas de Clare, father-in-law of Bartholomew, 1st Lord Badlesmere) after the two men had sworn eternal friendship. "This murder is alluded to by the Irish chieftains in their remonstrance to Pope John XXII., as a striking instance of the treachery of the English and Anglo-Irish then in Ireland." John O'Donovan, tr. and ed., Annals of the Kingdom of Ireland by the Four Masters (1856) 3:426-27 & n.h.


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