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From: "D. Spencer Hines" <>
Subject: Re: Plantagenet Connection - Denial Of Permission To Print
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:53:42 -0000
Mr. Hale, there is no reason to go apoplectic, obscene and hyperbolic.
This is what you said on 14 December:
"But, isn't GEN-MED a more or less gossipy operation. I read a note from
Spencer Hines recently in which he said he would not be responsible for the
accuracy of anything he put on GEN-MED, and I think he is correct in that."
That statement is ABSOLUTELY FALSE and DEAD WRONG.
I never said ANY such thing.
You then fumbled around and came back with this blivet on 15 December:
> "The posts I made concerning Gwladys Ddu would NOT have been made
> if I knew you were going to publish them. I do not stand by what is in
> them, and deny permission to publish them. Many were made late at night.
> I would have gone through things carefully and revised material if it was
> going to be published. But, again, I should have the right to decide WHERE
> my material should be published. I should not be forced or coerced to have
> it in your journal. "
Can you tell me who this quote is from? If it is from someone other than
Spencer Hines then I owe him an apology.
Still No Apology ---- Just ---- "Maybe I might owe him one ---- IF."
Then Nat Taylor set you straight, the same day, 15 December:
>Can you tell me who this quote is from? If it is from someone other than
>Spencer Hines then I owe him an apology. [GRH]
This was written by Paul C. Reed, in message
dated 14 December 2002.
It was quoted by Spencer Hines, in message
of the same date, posted in reply to Reed's message.
Mr. Reed did not say "he would not be responsible for the accuracy of anything
he put on GEN-MED" either.
Do you read English?
Please read the paragraph above by Mr. Reed again ---- so that you fully
Now, when you make a gaffe like this and say gibberish and twaddle about
someone on SGM/MED you have an obligation to:
1. ADMIT your error.
2. CORRECT what you said.
3. APOLOGIZE to those you have wronged.
I have not seen you do ANY of those three things. You went into hiding after
Nat Taylor's post, hoping everyone would just forget about it.
Now, step up to the plate like a man and do:
#1, #2 and #3.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Attributed to Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
Sol Disinfectus Optimus Est. Peccatoris Justificatio Absque Paenitentia,
Legem Destruit Moralem.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in
your philosophy." ---- William Shakespeare [1564-1616] The Tragedy of Hamlet,
Prince of Denmark, Act I, Scene V, Line 166-167
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D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor.
<> wrote in message news:...
| In a message dated 12/17/2002 6:29:54 PM Central Standard Time,
| > Whatever happened to that apology you promised, Mr. Hale?
| I did apologize to you. Although it was included in a message to someone
| else, I won't do it again. The other person is not due one in my opinion,
| and besides, he has not asked for one. Are you his authorized agent? If so
| please forward signed power of attorney authorization to me. Don't start
| your bull shit with me again. I won't back off the list again because of
| you. I will get nasty and vile. Is that what you want? If the list owner,
| or whoever, doesn't want a very filthy flame war, I suggest you do something
| before it starts. I will not let this jerk poke me around again.
| Gordon Hale
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