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From: (Douglas Richardson)
Subject: Re: Re-dating William Longespee's Birth
Date: 5 Jan 2003 09:31:18 -0800
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wrote in message news:<>...
> In a message dated 1/4/2003 6:09:42 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> writes:
>
> > In a message dated 1/4/2003 3:36:48 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> > writes:
> > >By these facts, I therefore judge that William Longespee was born not
> > >earlier than 1175, and probably closer to 1180.
>
> This statement still boggles my mind. You are asking us to believe William
> Longespee was born about 1180, granted the wealthy and important manor of
> Kirton in 1191 at age 11 (or age twelve, or thirteen) in his own right?
>
> [!]
>
> Paul

No, Paul. I'm saying that William Longespee was granted the manor in
1191 at age 11/16 and had a guardian assigned to him. Please quote my
words correctly. That is what the evidence shows.

By the way, I'm curious to know why did you miss William Longespee's
wardship? Or, did you suppress this evidence in your article because
it didn't fit your conclusions that William Longespee was the grandson
of a couple married prior to 1135? Something isn't totalling up. I
think you need to explain yourself.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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