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From: "Stewart, Peter" <>
Subject: Plantagenet bastards
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:50:00 +1100


I'm not sure if Douglas Richardson is putting only proven illegitimate
offspring of kings into his book, or proposing to discuss all the others
that have been put forward with less solid evidence.

Please note that the following is _not_ reliable information:

Alphonse Angot speculated that Agnes (died 30 August after 1226), who before
1212 married Raoul VI, viscount of Beaumont-sur-Sarthe (died 13 April
1238/9), _might_ have been a daughter of Henry II, Richard I or John. This
was in 'Les vicomtes du Maine', _Bulletin de la Commission historique et
archéologique de la Mayenne_ 30 (1914), and for all I know the suggestion
may have been revised by the author in later work.

The evidence was pretty slim - just the transmission of the seigneury of La
Fleche, which according to one of Angot's sources was in the hands of an
English king (misnamed Henry) in 1202, and then apparently given to Raoul.
Since he was the grandson of Constance, a bastard of Henry I, consanguinity
could have been a problem for Raoul's marriage to a child of Henry II, and
the chronology doesn't favour him as a possible father-in-law anyway; while
Richard II was rather less likely than John to have an unnoticed daughter.

Maybe this has been discussed here before, but I didn't find a mention in
the archives.

Peter Stewart

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