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From: "D.C.Meister" <>
Subject: Re: Ancestry of Baldwin I of Flanders
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:20:16 +0100
References: <BE9CF8DEAB7ED311B05E0008C7FA708701B20316@v003138e.crsrehab.gov.au>


Stewart, Peter schrieb:
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [mailto:]
>>Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 8:45
>>To:
>>Subject: Ancestry of Baldwin I of Flanders
>>
>>
>>I was recently at a genealogy website and I found this lineage
>>
>>Charlemagne, *Ingelheim 2.4.742, +Aachen 28.1.814, King of Franks
>>(754-814), King of Lombards (774-814), Holy Roman Emperor (800-814)
>>-cr Aachen 25.12.800;
>>father of:
>>
>>Charles, King of East Franks, *Aachen 772, +Aachen 4.12.811; father
>>of:
>>
>>Ingelram/Rowland, Governor of Flanders, possible ancestor of Counts of
>>Flanders, father of:
>>
>>Ct Odoscer (Odacre) of Harlebek, Governor of Flanders (possibly son of
>>Ingelram/Rowland, Gov of Flanders), had a son:
>>
>>Ct Baldwin I of Flanders (862-879), *ca 837/840, +Auxerre 879;
>>m.Auxerre 13.12.862 Judith (*844, +after 870), dau.of the Emperor
>>Charles II
>>
>>
>>Is this genealogy based on fact? Any comments??
>
>
> No, it's worthless.
>
> We have an account that Balduin I's father was a count named Audacer (or
> Odoacre), but no proof at all that this man ruled what came to be called
> Flanders. Any ancestry for him is fanciful.

Is nothing more known about this Odacre or his ancestry? A little bit
later there was a same named man (+901/2), the father of Wigericus. And
the name Odacre/Audachar seems to point to the Unruoching family
(K.F.Werner, Bedeutende Adelsfamilien im Reich Karls des Großen).

Detlef

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