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From: (Stewart Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Paternity of Judith, wife of Earl Waltheof (was re: Adelaide...)
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 21:46:04 GMT
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On Sun, 09 Mar 2003 04:54:02 GMT, Nathaniel Taylor
<> wrote:

>In article <>,
> (Douglas Richardson) wrote:

>>In addition to the source you've cited, Vita et passio Waldevi
>>comitis, Countess Judith's father is also named as Lambert of Lens in
>>an ancient pedigree of the Scottish royal family which I believe was
>>recorded at Melrose Abbey.
>Can you give a reference for this pedigree? I imagine it is later than,
>and possibly derivative of, the _Vita et passio_, or at least represents
>the same family tradition. Do Morton and Muntz discuss this text?

I don't know whether or not this is the pedigree that Doug was
thinking of, but the Chronicle of the Canons of Huntingdon makes
Judith a daughter of Lambert [see Anderson's "Early Sources of
Scottish History" vol. 2, p. 28]. The only other reference to Lambert
mentioned by Anderson was the item from the Life of Waltheof already
mentioned, which also made Judith a daughter of Lambert. The index to
Anderson's work (not compiled by the author) states that Judith was a
daughter of Odo of Champagne, but I do not find this stated anywhere
in the body of the book, so it is an apparent slip by the indexer.
Enguerrand does not even appear in the index.

Stewart Baldwin

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