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From: Douglas Beahm <>
Subject: Re: Edmund, Earl of Lancaster's cousin, John de St. John
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 11:07:44 GMT
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I agree that there is no ready explanation as to why Edmund, Earl of Lancaster
referred to Sir John de St. John as his cousin. My own slightly different and
extended ancestor list for Sir John de St. John is listed below:

1. Sir John de St. John, born Bef. 1240 of Basing, Hampshire, England; died
September 1302.
2. Sir Robert de St. John, born of Basing, Hampshire, England; died Abt. March
1266/67.
3. Agnes de Cantelou, died Aft. 1279.
4. William de Port, born Bef. 1190; died 1239.
5. Godeheut, born 1185; died Aft. 1243.
6. William de Cantelou II, died February 22, 1250/51 in Calne, Wiltshire,
England.
7. Millicent de Gournay, born Abt. 1185; died 1260.
8. Adam de Port, born Bef. 1160; died Bef. July 28, 1213.
9. Mabel, Heiress of Orval, born 1153; died Aft. September 1228.
12. William de Cantelou I, born of Calne, Wiltshire, England; died 1239.
14. Hugh de Gournay V, born Abt. 1148 in Caister, Norfolk, England; died 1214.
15. Juliana de Dammartin, born 1165.
16. John de Port, died 1168.
17. Maud, born 1127.
18. Richard d'Orval, died Bef. 1179. He was the son of 36. William d'Orval.
19. Muriel de St. John, born Abt. 1135.
28. Hugh de Gournay IV, born Bet. 1091 - 1095 in Gournay, Normandy, France; died
1180.
29. Melesinde de Coucy.
30. Alberic II, Count of Dammartin, born Abt. 1135; died September 19, 1200 in
London, Middlesex, England.
31. Maud of Clermont, born Abt. 1150; died Aft. 1200.
32. Henry de Port, died Aft. 1133.
33. Hawise, born 1089; died Aft. 1133.
36. William d'Orval, died Bef. 1179.
38. Roger de St. John.
39. Cecily de la Haie.
56. Gerard de Gournay, born Bet. 1037 - 1060 in Gournay, Normandy, France; died
Bet. 1098 - 1104.
57. Edith de Warenne, born Bet. 1076 - 1084.
58. Thomas I, Sire de Coucy, born 1073 in Coucy, Ardennes, France; died 1130.
59. Melesinde of Crecy, died Aft. 1147.
60. Alberic I, Count of Dammartin, born 1100; died 1182.
62. Renaud II, Count of Clermont, born Abt. 1100; died 1162.
63. Clemence of Bar-le-Duc, born Abt. 1120; died Aft. 1183.
64. Hugh de Port, died 1096.
65. Orence.
72. Hugh d'Orval.
76. John de St. John, born Abt. 1065 in Normandy, France.
78. Robert de la Haie.
79. Muriel.
112. Hugh de Gournay III, born Abt. 1040 in Gournay, Normandy, France; died 1093.

113. Basitia Flatel.
114. William de Warenne, Earl of Surrey, born Abt. 1034; died June 24, 1088.
115. Gundred Fitz, born 1055; died May 27, 1085 in Castle Acre, Norfolk, England.

116. Enguerrand I, Seigneur de Coucy, born 1042 in Coucy, Ardennes, France; died
1116.
117. Adele de Roucy of Marle.
118. Guy II, Seigneur de Montlhery, died 1108.
119. Adelaide of Crecy, died Aft. 1104.
120. Aubrey de Mello, died Bef. 1112.
121. Aelis of Dammartin.
124. Hugh de Creil I, Count of Clermont, born Abt. 1030; died 1101.
125. Margaret de Montdidier.
126. Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, died 1150.
127. Gisele of Vaudemont, born 1090.
144. Rainald d'Orval, born Bef. 1090.
152. William de St. John.
153. Olivia de Filigiers.
224. Hugh de Gournay II, died 1074.
226. Gerald Flatel, born Abt. 985.
228. Rudolf de Warenne, born Abt. 1000; died Aft. 1074.
229. Beatrice de Vascoeuil, died Aft. 1053.
230. Gerbod, born of St. Bertin, Flanders.
232. Dreux, Seigneur de Coucy, born Bef. 1042; died Aft. 1069.
233. Adele of Coucy.
234. Lietaud II, Seigneur de Marle.
236. Guy I, Seigneur de Montlhery, born 1009; died 1095.
237. Hodierne de Gometz, born 1014.
240. Gilbert, Lord of Mello, died Aft. February 25, 1083/84.
242. Hugh, Count of Dammartin, born 1042; died 1103.
243. Rohais, Countess of Bulles, born Abt. 1046.
248. Renaud, Count of Clermont.
250. Hilduin IV, Count of Montdidier, died Abt. 1063.
251. Alix de Roucy, born 1014; died 1062.
252. Thierry II, Count of Bar-le-Duc, died 1105.
253. Ermentrude of Burgundy, died Aft. 1105.
254. Gerard d'Alsace, Count of Vaudemont, born 1057; died 1118.
255. Helvide of Egisheim, died 1126.


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