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From: (Reedpcgen)
Subject: Re: Edmund, Earl of Lancaster's cousin, John de St. John
Date: 12 Aug 2003 23:14:39 GMT
References: <bhbl9f$7fl$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>


>If this - or a link via Vermandois - is the explanation of the kinship
>between Prince Edmund and the St Johns, perhaps one would expect to see the
>Tonys referred to as royal kinsmen elsewhere.

Perhaps a better, as easier, test would be to see if Robert de Beaumont, Earl
of Leicester (father of Margaret de Beaumont, and theoretical grandfather of
Godeheut), was called a kinsman. His mother Isabel/Elizabeth was daughter of
Hugues I, son of Henri I, King of France (by Anna of Kiev). Certainly the
Beaumonts were keenly aware of their close ties to the French crown.

Also, Ralph de Toeni's mother Ida/Gertrude of Hainault was daughter of Yolande,
granddaughter of Guillaume, Duke of Aquitaine.

Do we know the extended ancestry of Amice de Gael, wife of Robert de Beaumont?

Paul

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